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come on brian daboll...don't screw this up

i hate to be the debbie downer but if there is one team in the league that could mess this up its us. I dont know what it is here if its the water or the sun baking peoples minds but it seems like when players or coaches come down here the find ways to stink it up. I have seen Marshall highlights 100 times and in each one he was breaking tackles an scoring big TD and it seemed like once here he got shoe string tackled everytime he was about it break it. Im not knocking marshall at all hes the best player on the team its just an observation. I have the feeling bush is going to get like 6-7 touches a game and not even be the punt returner and have a small impact on the offense. god i hope im so worng on this but its just what i have come to expect out of the fins
 
talent has never been the question with Reggie. its a matter of whether or not he can stay on the field.. and so far the answer is a big N-O. why should it change now? bc he gets MORE touches.....

somebody better start hitting the bible a bit more.

ha ha...good line

i wonder if he's gonna have that same burst and acceleration when he cuts up north and south as i see on that video after micro surgery...it won't take many reps before i'll be able to tell...not many at all...its what we should all be looking for...that elite explosion and acceleration...if its missing not good...not good at all
 
lets just hope reggie can have a similar season to the last Heisman trophy rb we traded for from the saints rub in the saints face just like Ricky
 
then thing reggie has is a wicked ability to not only cut on a dime, but he gets up to his speed right away, isnt like ted ginn who needed a good 10yds or better to get into his power band. theres lots of fast guys who fail at returns because they cant do one or both of these, cut and get up to speed right away. his stride reminds me a lot of duper.

this undrafted f/a kid, lively [sp?] or something like that, where theres a highlight post on the board about. he is a lot like reggie in the fact he can cut on a dime, get out of traffic and arm grabs and get into his top speed quick!! not much "slower" than reggie, but all the same traits! this is where i hope daboll has the smarts, to realize what a potentially awsome return game we have in front of us, reggie and the lively kid on kickoffs and trading off on punts. we could have the best return game in the leauge on our hands right now!, but, will they keep the kid? will they use a roster spot on "just a return guy"? will they give him a real chance and play him a lot or just write him off saying, "well, we have reggie so lets go with that and keep the ju-co ufa we have and see what we have there." i fear this the most. we dont keep and develope young, promising talent, they go to other teams and flourish, then come back and toast us!!

when you have a run first and run at all costs offense, yds are precious and if you have two guys that can average 27-30 yds a return AND be threats to take it to the house on every play, its vital to have that kind of special teams play, expecially after how DISMAL ours have been the past 4 years or so.

the other thing from this video..................

WE SHOULDA DRAFTED DREW BREES!! WE SHOULDA SIGNED DREW BREES AS A F/A!!!
 
ha ha...good line

i wonder if he's gonna have that same burst and acceleration when he cuts up north and south as i see on that video after micro surgery...it won't take many reps before i'll be able to tell...not many at all...its what we should all be looking for...that elite explosion and acceleration...if its missing not good...not good at all

thanks bud :)

from what i've seen of reggie throughout his career, is that hes always had that elite burst and speed. but what the highlights dont show (obviously bc they are highlights), are the countless plays where reggie takes the ball as fast as he can straight into the backside of his offensive lineman. The guy has ZERO patience.

When you watch a Saints game, and see the difference between Pierre Thomas and Reggie Bush, its easy to see what part of Pierre's game makes him more productive.

Both backs are great receiving threats, but pierre has the patience to find the hole and then hit it. Reggie is by far a superior athlete, but its infuriating watching him take the ball and then run nowhere at full speed and go down, over and over and over.

If he can add patience to his game, and somehow stay healthy, the sky is the limit.

Unfortunately i have no faith in either one of those happening.
 
Theres alot of backs I'm reminded of that had all the skills, but it didnt come together for quite a while, due mainly to this. Offensive schemes, Blocking, Lack of patience or even hesitance.

Marshall
Tiki
Priest
Larry
Jamal Lewis&Anderson
Shaun
Ricky
 
lets just hope reggie can have a similar season to the last Heisman trophy rb we traded for from the saints rub in the saints face just like Ricky


The Saints absolutely raped Miami in the Ricky trade. They got two good years out of Ricky then he retired. Meanwhile, the back the Saints drafted to replace Ricky in the first place (Deuce McAllister) was busy becoming the Saints all time leading rusher in franchise history.
 
With our offensive scheme, if Bush stays healthy he'll have a career year and we should see some success. If he gets hurt though....
 
Here's a good link concerning drop-off in production due to serious injuries:

http://www.fantasyfootballxtreme.com/fantasy-football-resources/fantasy-football-injury-dictionary/

Microfracture Surgery

What is Microfracture surgery?
Microfracture surgery is essentially a surgical technique for cartilage repair. The procedure works by creating tiny fractures in the underlying bone in the knee, which then causes new cartilage to develop.
Microfracture surgery was developed in the late 1980s and early 1990s by Dr. Richard Steadman. Through steady research and testing (with horses), Steadman’s once “controversial” procedure has made its way into the microcosm of professional sports. In general, the procedure has had a high success rate, but because of the natural decline in an athlete’s performance, it’s tough to evaluate the rate of success with some older athletes that have had the procedure. While it’s concerning as to why younger athletes need Microfracture surgery to begin with, the younger an athlete is when he/she has the surgery the better.
In October of 2005, Suns star Amare Stoudamire became one of the highest profile players in professional sports to have Microfracture surgery. Stoudamire returned to the court in March of 2006 (6 months later), but due to stiffness in both knees, Stoudamire and his doctors decided to delay the stud’s return until the start of the 2006-2007 season (roughly 7 months after that). Stoudamire did in fact return to his old form during that 2006-2009 season (roughly one full calendar year after having his Microfracture surgery. Stoudamire is truly a success story.
Jason Kidd, Greg Oden, Zach Randolph, Steve Yzerman, John Stockton, Kenyon Martin, and Antonio McDyess have all had Microfracture surgery and just about all of those athletes have been able to return, or at least near, their pre-surgery form.
Professional athletes that have not had the same success include: Brian Grant, Chris Webber, Allan Houston and Penny Hardaway. And Tracy McGrady has recently had the procedure, but his return won’t be until the 2009-2010 season, so time will tell in his case.
Microfracture procedures are not that common in the NFL just yet (at least when it comes to impact fantasy players), but Saints WR Marques Colston reportedly had Microfracture surgery in January of 2009, so time will if Colston regain his elite form. The same goes for Saints RB Reggie Bush, who also had the surgery back in December of 2008. It’s worth noting that Colston’s procedure was thought to be somewhat minor — The receiver reportedly had a small hole in his kneecap, so our guess is that Colston will recover much faster than most.
Details of Microfracture surgery: Via arthroscopy, the surgeon creates tiny fractures in the bones (using an awl). Bone marrow and blood, which contain stem cells, seep out of the tiny fractures and this creates a blood clot. The blood clot then releases cartilage-building cells. The human body treats the microfractures (created by the surgeon) as bodily injuries, which is why the knee produces new/replacement cartilage.
Microfracture surgery is actually considered relatively minor as far as procedures go… it’s the restrictions that are placed on the patient during the recovery time frame. For optimal re-growth, patients usually need to be on crutches for four to six weeks and sometimes longer. Patients often feel that their knee(s) is doing fine and that they can skip extremely important recovery steps, and often times patients start running and jumping and even start playing sports before the knee(s) is ready.
Older patients, overweight patients and patients with significant knee degeneration issues have far less success with Microfracture surgery.
Will professional football players have as much success with Microfracture surgery as NBA players have had? Will football players need more recovery time due to the grueling nature of football? Time will tell — Marques Colston and Reggie Bush are two of the NFL’s highest profile subjects to have the procedure and their first seasons back from the surgery will be this 2009. We will report back after 2009 plays out. Stoudamire wasn’t ready after 6 months of recovery and Colston will be roughly 6-7 months removed from Microfracture surgery come August — But, again remember that Colston’s procedure might have been less intense and we might have to look at his case a bit differently when reflecting back. In case you were wondering, Bush will be roughly 7-8 months removed from surgery come August.
 
I think Bush's best use would be in the offense we're claiming to implement. I think Sean Payton is a very good OC, but I disagree with the notion that he came close to maximizing Bush's talents. If you put Bush in New England, he would have over 1,000 yards receiving. Not a doubt in my mind - assuming health.
 
I think Bush helps this offense alot. Not only is he a dynamic playmaker, but he knows how to find the endzone. I think he helps our redzone offense a ton this year. Henne likes to check down in the redzone because he is scared of throwing picks, well not he can check down to someone who can make a play for him
 
From what I've heard about microfracture, it's typically not until your 2nd season back that you really regain the same 'explosion'. Also, players like Bush that have athleticism to spare, typically are less affected. From what I see, it looks like he still has plenty of ability. He put up his 2 best YPC seasons post microfracture, so that is encouraging. Also, it seems as though his touches were significantly limited following his return from the injury, so that would contribute to the lower overall production. Finally, the injury that sidelined him last year was a broken right leg, while the microfracture was in his left knee, so as long as he hasn't been favoring the left leg too much during recovery, I don't think we'll be seeing any ill effects.
 
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