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Dallas' Barber & Bennett being discussed in trade up with Fins?

I like M. Barber. This trade will only make sense if they trade R. Brown for a 2nd round pick.

Go Fins!!!
 
More smokescreens. We are not going to make a trade for a RB that's got an injury history, when we are looking at getting rid of ours for the same reason. Bennett = ????. Didn't we do this same experiment with Fasano just a couple years ago?
 
Doesn't work...

Barber is a compliment back and his salary pays him like a pro bowl starter

Bennett is immature and his talent means nothing untill he grows up

Bobby Carpenter is a role player at best

Marcus Spears has a little value but really only to a 4-3 team(even though his size says 3-4). He self admits he doesn't play well in the 3-4
 
"making a name for himself as one of the lead bloggers on the internet"

is there anything that does NOT qualify as 'news' these days??
 
Marion Barber has been previously discussed. If Cowboys wanted to move up in the draft, they would trade him to along with their first round pick. Alone, Barber has limited value, 4th or 5th round pick. The biggest reason I don’t see Barber being moved is the exact same reason we would consider trading him. This draft is filled with talented and speedy running backs. A running back with starter potential will be available in the mid to late rounds. If the Cowboys gamble on a RB in the 4th round, the risk is minimized considering the remaining tandem of Choice and Jones.

Marc Colombo is an unlikely option. If a top to very good LT falls to the Cowboys in the first (or the Cowboys move up to get a Bulaga or Williams) Colombo may become expendable. Free played at a very high level last year at right tackle with virtually no drop off from Colombo. While Colombo recently signed an extension ($22 million, with $11.5 million guaranteed, through the 2012 season), as there are no cap implications, Colombo may find himself in a new uniform next year.

Martellus Bennett is also an unlikely option (but not impossible). We are aware that there was a market for Bennett who has mostly underperformed during his two years in Dallas. Jerry Jones indicated during the 2009 season that a FIRST DAY draft pick was offered for Bennett. The offer was rumored to have come from the Bengals. I would be surprised about two things. First, that Bennett’s value is still that high based upon his 2009 performance. Secondly, I would be even more surprised if Jerry was accurate that a team offered a 1st round pick for Bennett. Historically a first day pick was a 1st through 3rd; last year a first day pick was either a first or a second; this year a first day pick is only a first round pick. I’m inclined to believe that a team offered a 2nd round pick and Jones simply had a senior moment and forgot about the change in draft format. The play of John Phillips last year makes Bennett expendable, though a 3rd TE will have to be drafted.

Bobby Carpenter is a definite possibility. The Cowboys drafted a multitude of athletic speedy middle/outside linebackers in 2009 who could easily be projected into playing the nickel LB position. Carpenter is still believed to be capable of playing effectively in a 4-3 system, though that may simply been conjecture. Carpenter is a restricted free agent and it may be tempting to get a 4th or 5th round pick for a player who is not projected to be on the team in 2011.

Patrick Crayton may be expendable due to the emergence of Kevin Ogletree. While Crayton isn’t the veteran WR most Cowboys fans wish to be kicked out of Dallas, Crayton is productive and is a young 31. Crayton still has some tread left on his tires. Crayton is often characterized as having the best hands on the team. I would be dismayed to see Crayton traded for a 6th or 7th round pick, but it would be excellent return on investment for the Cowboys considering he was originally a 7th round pick.

Marcus Spears, like Carpenter, is a restricted free agent and may not be a Cowboys in 2011. Spears has played exceptionally well as a run stuffer while in Dallas, though he does not rack up sacks and is consequently under-appreciated. I would love to see Spears resigned to an extension (possibly four years), but it may not come to fruition. If the Cowboys selected a run stuffer like Jared Odrick or Terrence Cody in the first or second round, Spears’s leverage for a long-term deal is caput.

http://thelandryhat.com/2010/04/22/cowboys-veterans-on-the-trading-block/
 
Marion Barber has been previously discussed. If Cowboys wanted to move up in the draft, they would trade him to along with their first round pick. Alone, Barber has limited value, 4th or 5th round pick. The biggest reason I don’t see Barber being moved is the exact same reason we would consider trading him. This draft is filled with talented and speedy running backs. A running back with starter potential will be available in the mid to late rounds. If the Cowboys gamble on a RB in the 4th round, the risk is minimized considering the remaining tandem of Choice and Jones.

Marc Colombo is an unlikely option. If a top to very good LT falls to the Cowboys in the first (or the Cowboys move up to get a Bulaga or Williams) Colombo may become expendable. Free played at a very high level last year at right tackle with virtually no drop off from Colombo. While Colombo recently signed an extension ($22 million, with $11.5 million guaranteed, through the 2012 season), as there are no cap implications, Colombo may find himself in a new uniform next year.

Martellus Bennett is also an unlikely option (but not impossible). We are aware that there was a market for Bennett who has mostly underperformed during his two years in Dallas. Jerry Jones indicated during the 2009 season that a FIRST DAY draft pick was offered for Bennett. The offer was rumored to have come from the Bengals. I would be surprised about two things. First, that Bennett’s value is still that high based upon his 2009 performance. Secondly, I would be even more surprised if Jerry was accurate that a team offered a 1st round pick for Bennett. Historically a first day pick was a 1st through 3rd; last year a first day pick was either a first or a second; this year a first day pick is only a first round pick. I’m inclined to believe that a team offered a 2nd round pick and Jones simply had a senior moment and forgot about the change in draft format. The play of John Phillips last year makes Bennett expendable, though a 3rd TE will have to be drafted.

Bobby Carpenter is a definite possibility. The Cowboys drafted a multitude of athletic speedy middle/outside linebackers in 2009 who could easily be projected into playing the nickel LB position. Carpenter is still believed to be capable of playing effectively in a 4-3 system, though that may simply been conjecture. Carpenter is a restricted free agent and it may be tempting to get a 4th or 5th round pick for a player who is not projected to be on the team in 2011.

Patrick Crayton may be expendable due to the emergence of Kevin Ogletree. While Crayton isn’t the veteran WR most Cowboys fans wish to be kicked out of Dallas, Crayton is productive and is a young 31. Crayton still has some tread left on his tires. Crayton is often characterized as having the best hands on the team. I would be dismayed to see Crayton traded for a 6th or 7th round pick, but it would be excellent return on investment for the Cowboys considering he was originally a 7th round pick.

Marcus Spears, like Carpenter, is a restricted free agent and may not be a Cowboys in 2011. Spears has played exceptionally well as a run stuffer while in Dallas, though he does not rack up sacks and is consequently under-appreciated. I would love to see Spears resigned to an extension (possibly four years), but it may not come to fruition. If the Cowboys selected a run stuffer like Jared Odrick or Terrence Cody in the first or second round, Spears’s leverage for a long-term deal is caput.

http://thelandryhat.com/2010/04/22/cowboys-veterans-on-the-trading-block/
 
Tell you what, throw in Miles Austin and its a deal, otherwise this trade is garbage!
 
They should just cut the garbage out of that trade, than we will see how much they really want Earl Thomas or a LT prospect.
Our first and fourth for their first, third, and Ratliff
We pick up our nose tackle, we can draft the best pass rusher available in the first round, and pray that a guy like Reshad Jones is there in the third round
 
#27, Barber, and a 3rd rounder for #12 wouldnt be a bad trade imo. Barber is a pretty solid RB.
 
I'd prefer if Bobby Carpenter were included in the trade. the Dolphins have been reported to have interest in him over the years and at least he would fill a position of need at OLB. I'm not sure how much of an upgrade Bennett is over Fasano (if he is at all) and Barber is a tough runner and solid player but he too probably isn't as good as Ronnie Brown. So unless that trade is chocked full of draft picks i'd say no.
 
wouldnt mind bennett but passin on earl thomas or eric berry i do not like that idea
 
I'd prefer if Bobby Carpenter were included in the trade. the Dolphins have been reported to have interest in him over the years and at least he would fill a position of need at OLB. I'm not sure how much of an upgrade Bennett is over Fasano (if he is at all) and Barber is a tough runner and solid player but he too probably isn't as good as Ronnie Brown. So unless that trade is chocked full of draft picks i'd say no.
Dear God no. He is flat out horrible. Really horrible. What we have now is better, and we don't have anything.
 
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