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Darlington on state of the dolphins. (on finsiders)

ChambersWI said:
The consistent theme among the Miami writers was coaching was an issue and a lot of it was on playcalling. They shared blame between Philbin and Sherman for that, but Mando,Omar, Beasley, Jackson, and Abramson have all bashed playcalling quite a bit all season.

As for the talent. I feel in the passing game we're missing a big target as we really don't have anybody who will win 50-50 balls or will out-jump a defender in the end zone for a TD. OL is an issue for sure, and while a lot of blame is on Ireland for not getting guys for the ZBS but there are things I'm hearing that make me not want to absolve the coaches either.

Even above the OL, the biggest issue was lack of consistency in the run game.
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Don't get me wrong, I think Mike Sherman needed to get axed, but how much better did this offense look during the two week span that guys actually made some plays with the ball after the catch? We thought we were a playoff team.

You know, I guess you could put that on the coaching. After the Patriots game, we went back to running the offense through Hartline and the result was a lot of drops and no points.
 
oh I loved the plays of YAC. Our offense in theory was supposed to rely on YAC and we rarely got it. Some of that is on coaches (all comeback routes), but not all.

The bigger complaints seem to have been from situational calls.
 
Watch at 3:53.

Classic Darlington and Finheaven gag. I wonder how many people called in to correct him. :lol:
 
Fintastic17 said:
Wow 2:59 - 3:13 blew my mind. How was this not amended throughout the season, by Sherman, by Tannehill, by Philbin, I don't understand! How does a coach with a hard on for detail let that get by him???
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More important question: How did we ever average 19 points per game when the opposing defense knew 1. If the play was a pass or a run and 2. exactly when the ball would be snapped.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
It's odd to me that Darlington says consistency is a coaching problem and not a talent problem. I don't agree with that. I think that what won Miami some key games was PLAYMAKING. Mike Wallace making an awesome play against the Patriots. Charles Clay vs the Steelers breaking tackles. Contrast that to Brian Hartline dropping five balls against the Bills, Clay and Hartline dropping critical passes against the Ravens, etc..
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Yup, it could be coaching, talent or both. When you have below average players you have to take more risks which increases variance which leads to what looks like inconsistency. In our case we had a terrible o-line and and a raw QB-- the risk we took was putting every game on our QBs shoulders who was pretty inconsistent because he was raw and inexperienced. We gambled on Tannehill being able to win enough games for us to get in the playoffs by himself and it didn't pan out. We could have done other things like sticking with the run no matter what and looked like a nice consistent 8-8 team or even a 9-7 team all the way through but what's the point in that? We sacrificed some short term consistency by increasing variance and risking a chance at the playoffs (or maybe giving us our only chance at the playoffs) today but the QB should be much better for it over the long term.

This team wins at a 91% clip when the QB plays well (90 passer rating or higher), we are one of the best in the league in that regard. Maybe the coach is culpable for the QB being so inconsistent but I believe its all part of Philbin's grooming process and we will see the fruits of that labor starting next season. When Tannehill gets the timing with Wallace down, gets Gibson back and gets more work with him, gets an o-line and gets THE BEAST Jimmy Graham as his TE (or if not him hopefully somebody good) this offense will start putting up some staggering numbers. Especially if we start adding some hurry up to the mix.

Here's the bottom line: If Tannehill plays great next season the team will win a lot of games.
 
When people talk about the importance of coaching look at New England. They've taken how many of our cast offs and won the division and championships?

So was it talent? No it was coaching. Ninkovich is one of cast off thriving in NE.

OUR problem is clearly both talent AND coaching. Sure we need players who make plays... but we also needs coaches that know how to maximize their potential and also.
 
Coaching + Tom Brady. Oh, and cheating. Let's not forget the CHEATING. They haven't won a Super Bowl SINCE THEY CHEATED. Even when they had Randy Moss and the most talented, explosive, frightening offense in league history, they didn't win the Super Bowl because THEY STOPPED CHEATING.

MarinoEqualsGod said:
More important question: How did we ever average 19 points per game when the opposing defense knew 1. If the play was a pass or a run and 2. exactly when the ball would be snapped.
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Well, according to some people on this site, 1 and 2 are the fault of Ryan Garbagehill. :idk:
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Coaching + Tom Brady. Oh, and cheating. Let's not forget the CHEATING. They haven't won a Super Bowl SINCE THEY CHEATED. Even when they had Randy Moss and the most talented, explosive, frightening offense in league history, they didn't win the Super Bowl because THEY STOPPED CHEATING.



Well, according to some people on this site, 1 and 2 are the fault of Ryan Garbagehill. :idk:
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:lol: Hadn't seen that one yet. Could stick.
 
Canadianfishfan said:
When people talk about the importance of coaching look at New England. They've taken how many of our cast offs and won the division and championships?

So was it talent? No it was coaching. Ninkovich is one of cast off thriving in NE.

OUR problem is clearly both talent AND coaching. Sure we need players who make plays... but we also needs coaches that know how to maximize their potential and also.
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There are exceptions to every rule. There's a select few coaches that help their team win a few more games than the average coach, then there are a select few coaches who cause their teams to lose a few more games than the average coach. Then there's everyone else...I think Philbin falls into that latter category.
 
MarinoEqualsGod said:
There are exceptions to every rule. There's a select few coaches that help their team win a few more games than the average coach, then there are a select few coaches who cause their teams to lose a few more games than the average coach. Then there's everyone else...I think Philbin falls into that latter category.
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Of course there is. But let's look at the successful teams in the league right now.

Other than John Fox, and perhaps Ron Rivera, all of the teams in play have strong coaching. Look at the revival of New Orleans.

Our problem is coaching as much as it is talent. When we were last relevant and had talent, everyone was throwing Wannestedt under the bus. Or was it talent?
 
MarinoEqualsGod said:
There are exceptions to every rule. There's a select few coaches that help their team win a few more games than the average coach, then there are a select few coaches who cause their teams to lose a few more games than the average coach. Then there's everyone else...I think Philbin falls into that latter category.
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I agree. And its damn refreshing (which says a lot about the revolving door of terrible coaches we've had going back decades). Most coaches in the NFL are good, meaning if they have the right QB they can win. Most of our coaches going back 20 years or so have been terrible.

It seems to me that everybody here is hoping, nay, demanding we get that once in a lifetime fairytale type coach. Its a strange dynamic where it seems like the longer we suffer with bad coaches the more we demand the fairytale coach. Kind of like Andy Dalton being on the hot seat while Cutler and Romo get extensions--losing playoff games < than getting to the playoffs in the first place. Its strange because I'm completely on board with feeling that way too but if you think about it it doesn't make a lick of sense logically. Never mind the fact that Dalton has only been in the league 3 years and is perfect at getting his team to the playoffs.
 
Where have I seen sacrificing coordinators by a mediocre HC before? I can put a fist pump on it but I have seen it before!
 
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