Deep Throws

[So Be]

I'd like to see a comparison of Wallace vs other Miami receivers deep if anyone has that. I too think that Tannehill is the cause of the miscues most often and this is based solely on observation.

Last year Wallace caught 6 of 36 with 2 drops. Hartline caught 6 of 14 with 1 drop.

 

[So Be]

how can anyone blame the receiver for getting under thrown? wallace is past his man by 5 yards and if the QB can deliver the ball in stride it is a TD, no bones about it. you can either do it or not and that is what makes you elite. tannehill is not elite, (yet?). we will see.

Not saying this is the case here but, we have all seen many a deep throw by many QB's being thrown short intestinally to allow a WR to come back for it. That may have happened a few times, don't know, but the QB and WR have to be on the same page, and RT/Wallace were not. RT and Hartline seem to know what the other is thinking, and it really shows. If Wallace come close to that in his second year, we are in good shape.

 

[Unchained 07]

With Tannehill to Wallace it's a little bit on both of them. At times Ryan just flat out missed him and other times Wallace seemed to give up a little, but usually there's a little more to it than that. Few players have Wallace's speed and the difference in him getting a free release and getting the slightest jam at the LOS could be 5-10 yards, very hard to judge. I expect the connection to me more consistent this year though. If I'm Lazor, I'm telling him to sling it if he sees Wallace 1 on 1 on the outside, he's much harder to overthrow than underthrow.

 

[Phinsfan93]

Hopefully we see more of the long TD's from everyone and not just Wallace like below.

[video=youtube;GTPhTV_HHpw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTPhTV_HHpw[/video]

Of all my years as a Dolphins fan, since 09' lol, I've never seen any of those types of plays with the exception of Ginn blowing by Revis on MNF.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

The main problem IMO was the timing of the passes. He often threw the pass when Wallace was down the field too far making it impossible for an in stride pass. Lazor seems to love deep passes so I expect that to become one of his first reads making the timing better. I also see more screens which should make the defense less willing to play off coverage opening the deep pass

Yup. I agree that better play design will absolutely help. I think it was the Chargers game where Wallace lined up on the left and there was an incomplete deep ball that he got open running. The play called for Tannehill to take a shotgun snap, fake a handoff, take a hitch step, and then throw the ball. Wallace was already thirty yards downfield.

 

[Dolfandenny]

No one has mentioned that being sacked so many times so quickly behind such a crappy line might have added to the timing problem. Ya think?

 

[Vol&dolfan]

One thing that would help our deep threat alot would be to develop a decent running game. Without that teams will just drop more players back in coverage.

 

[gafin]

Speaking of deep throws. Wallace promises more production in year two.

The look on his face told a story, but only part of it. This was Mike Wallace, opening up. He’s never shy with the media, but Saturday, he was reflecting on his initial season with the Dolphins and skipping the sugarcoating.

And while it’s one thing to admit what everyone else has been thinking — that there’s more to Mike Wallace than what we’ve seen in a Dolphins uniform — the most important words Wallace uttered were directed toward 2014.

“I think you’ll see a big difference from Year 1 to Year 2,” he said.

I feel like now, it’s kind of like, let’s just play,” Wallace said. “Here, I was worrying about coming in, getting to know the guys, fitting in, knowing the coaches, knowing the system. Just a lot. It was a lot tougher than people think.”

Wallace, who turns 28 Friday, prides himself in staying level-headed, but he admitted he compounded the situation by overburdening himself.

“Coming in on a young team, trying to be a leader on a team that I’m not even familiar with the guys,” he said. “I think this year I feel a lot more comfortable. All my guys are coming, talking to me: ‘How do you feel about this? How do you feel about that?’ I feel the guys have a lot more confidence in me. I always have confidence in myself but I feel like my teammates trust me a lot more.”

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/s...ns-mike-wallace-promises-more-producti/ngn9z/

 

[So Be]

Speaking of deep throws. Wallace promises more production in year two.

I have to pick on Wallace a bit on what he has to say. I distinctly recall him saying that he had to work with RT in the off season. However, RT was working with Matthews and others, with Wallace no where to be found. This was completely voluntary but, "If ya talk the talk, Ya should walk the walk." JMO

 

[johngarryvo]

10 year-olds aren't being guarded by grown men.

first couple practices neither are they.. it's touch football til 7/27

 

[truedolfan57]

Speaking of deep throws. Wallace promises more production in year two.

I have to pick on Wallace a bit on what he has to say. I distinctly recall him saying that he had to work with RT in the off season. However, RT was working with Matthews and others, with Wallace no where to be found. This was completely voluntary but, "If ya talk the talk, Ya should walk the walk." JMO

To be fair, it's still the offseason, technically.

 

[Spiff]

Last year Wallace caught 6 of 36 with 2 drops. Hartline caught 6 of 14 with 1 drop.

And once again everyone ignores this. I've said it a million times already and this is one stat that proves it: Tannehill did not have a problem connecting on deep balls with any receiver not named Mike Wallace. I still don't think that our QB is the problem.

 

[Finland]

No one has mentioned that being sacked so many times so quickly behind such a crappy line might have added to the timing problem. Ya think?

Certainly the Oline hurt him. For sure when you are sacked you are not going to connect.
I think you need to look at all the plays you were not sacked to understand the real problem.

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Last year Wallace caught 6 of 36 with 2 drops. Hartline caught 6 of 14 with 1 drop.

Double the catches, have the drops while targeted half as much. Pretty significant numbers!

 

[roy_miami]

I think its mostly a timing issue as the balls were mostly accurate on the line but they were inaccurate on depth. Henne had a horrible deep ball but he sprayed it all over, thats hard to fix. The Tannehill to Wallace connection should improve greatly this season or next.

 

[randomname]

And once again everyone ignores this. I've said it a million times already and this is one stat that proves it: Tannehill did not have a problem connecting on deep balls with any receiver not named Mike Wallace. I still don't think that our QB is the problem.

Doesn't necessarily mean it's Wallace's fault though. Unless being too fast is a fault. It could just be Tannehill not being able to judge his speed well.

Though to me it seems like a mix of Tannehill, Wallace, and retarded play calling at fault.