I've never seen this site like this before. Yeah there's been negativity here for years but it's at an all-time high now especially with numerous posters talking just a ton of **** to others.
It's bizarre.
It's bizarre.
Derek Carr is already better than Tannehill!!
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He led his team to an impressive 9 points against the team RT put up 33 against...21-34 no TDs and an INT for a blistering 62.6 passer rating...put him in the HOF right now!
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So having the leagues maybe 25th best receiver makes you that much better?
Now what? Try watching the game to have more than a superficial point of view.
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Read earlier posts and discover for yourself how you're missing the point. If I just read the box scores my opinion would be equally as meaningless.
Is what you're saying "he looked natural while crapping the bed?" And while there would have been plenty of tape of Schaub, it would probably be prudent to temper our puppy exuberance until the league has sufficient tape on him.
Factoring in the dropped passes makes Tannehills completion percentage jump 10% (82/124, 66%) not to mention the added yardage and TD totals to be had.
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Yeah, but passes being dropped happen to every QB. If that's the barometer then Henne should still be here in uniform because he got killed by dropped passes and shoddy OLine play as well.
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Statistics do not tell you with any CERTAIN accuracy that one player is better than another. If you watch the two players play the game you can see the OP's point. The presence on the field, the self control, the moxie, the leadership ,the focus...look at these qualities or lack thereof to understand the point
True but not to the same extent it seems; hopefully it will average out and we'll see some more positivity out of the position, although presently Tannehill has 4x the amount of dropsies as Russell Wilson and 6x as many as Kaepernick.
Fair enough, cut it in half for the average. 76/124 and 61%. Still very good numbers and not nearly the type of QB play that everyone's calling for a head on a platter. Still sticking with the fact that we need at least til mid-season and a few games beyond to accurately assess our offense.
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True but not to the same extent it seems; hopefully it will average out and we'll see some more positivity out of the position, although presently Tannehill has 4x the amount of dropsies as Russell Wilson.
I hear you, and I agree to a certain extent but I remember when Henne was also being blasted his dropped passes count was pretty high as well. I remember Brandon Marshall was dropping TDs and people where going crazy.
At the end of the day you can point to the drops but if your going to do that then you must also point to the times he over threw/under threw. Times when the WRs were open and he missed them or didn't even see them open.
I mean, you expect the WRs to be near perfect but not the QB? 12 drops is an average of 4 a game. If RT is throwing 40 some odd times a game, 4 drops/incomplete passes shouldn't completely destroy his entire body of work unless there's something else going on because that means he had an average of 36 passes/opportunities (after drops) he could've rocked the world with and he has not.
Vision is RTs problem, I haven't seen any improvement in almost 2 years in that aspect. He's still locking onto a target and isn't reading defenses quickly enough.
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I totally agree with you. I actually think playing RT until the end of the season is best because bringing in Moore is just a waste of time. He's got 13 games to wake up...
That's what I love about the happy adjusters. They have no comprehension about the burden or normalcy of anything. You wanted to assign every so-called dropped pass to Tannehill's benefit. Then somebody properly pointed out that every team has drops. So now you'll accept 50% of them. Let me guess, every other quarterback gets their bottom line numbers without adjustment but Tannehill alone is coddled.
And I guess we'll prefer to ignore that Tannehill led the league in dropped interceptions last season with 17. No need to adjust there. Look away, Dixie Land.
It's been a frustrating start to the season. The only positive I see is that the happy adjusters continue to lose credibility, and credibility that they never should have owned. As I've posted, in Las Vegas circles they would be laughed out off the room for sheer ignorance but yet somehow it's accepted if not applauded here. Lazor had the proper focus -- if the numbers say Tannehill has regressed, then that's the case. He still has opportunity to rescue the season and his career. The yards per attempt category doesn't lie once the sample is sufficient.
Anyway, Derek Carr has logic to support he'll be better than Tannehill eventually and long term. He had a standard college path and was very highly rated early in his career. The skepticism came as a senior, and was warranted. Rookie quarterbacks normally don't lead their team to many points, especially early in the season. We need that to continue. Oakland as a winless team will have energy but not as much as the two teams in the situations we just faced.
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i knew awsi was gonna jump on that one...can't say i fault him on it either...the qb has regresssed this season in a new offense to date...i would however love to see video clip evidence of 17 dropped ints last year...