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Did some people here really want us to draft Manziel?

I don't want him.

And I think the Browns were all over the draft, being ridiculous. They overspent for a corner, and failed to trade back into the draft like they wanted, and were lucky Manziel fell to them. Still, they can have him. He's a high risk pick and I wouldn't want him here.
 
I don't see Manziel and his scat type of football play working long term. He may have some short term success, but once he gets figured out I don't think he will last. Personal opinion though.
 
Ryan Tannehill* 484 774 62.5 5450 7.0 6.9 42 21 134.2 115 369 3.2 5
Johnny Manziel* 595 863 68.9 7820 9.1 9.4 63 22 164.1 345 2169 6.3 30

Yes.
 
It's interesting that the Cleveland scenario is almost exactly the same as in '08 after we passed on the people's popular mirage, Brady Quinn, who, if Cleveland didn't trade up to grab him also in the early20s, it's likely he would have plummeted out of the first round entirely. Geo Santayana: "Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it."
 
Johnny football will get beat up playing in that division. Pitts , Baltimore and Cinny defenses will be licking their chops.

I counted and they mentioned his name 2,687 times and projected him going to at less 10 different teams before he was picked. Tim Tebow , Brady Quinn , Johnny football. All in the same boat if you ask me. Great in college. Very average in the big league.
 
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The Browns in 3 drafts picked an overrated QB in the same round @ pick 22 all 3 times. If that's not a bad omen I don't know what is....... Are they doing the 3 strike rule? Or third times a charm?
 
jMaL305 said:
Ryan Tannehill* 484 774 62.5 5450 7.0 6.9 42 21 134.2 115 369 3.2 5
Johnny Manziel* 595 863 68.9 7820 9.1 9.4 63 22 164.1 345 2169 6.3 30

Yes.
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Means nothing. That's just a bunch of numbers.

He may do well at Cleveland , and I hope he does. He is exciting. But he does not fit the Miami scheme, and he is a bigger bust potential than what Tannehill was.
 
All depends on how on the bus with Tanne you are. Was Manziel a better QB for A&M than Tanne was ? That's not even close. If you've given up on RT, like some have, or you were never really high on him in the first place (which is where I am tbh), then taking Manziel and trading Tanne might have been a worthwhile option. The only reason I wasn't totally on board with that idea is that I wasn't sure how much we could get for him in this draft and we have a lot of needs to fill so wasting a 1st on exchanging QBs was not a great option. If we could have gotten a 2nd for Tanne, I would have taken Manziel in a heartbeat tbh.

Having said all that, I'm an awful judge of QBs, I was actually quite excited about the Pat White pick when we made it, so my opinion is pretty worthless tbh :)
 
I absolutely would have taken Manziel at 19. Tannehill's background doesn't suggest elite, not when he was 23 years old before he ever started a college season opener at quarterback. You can make excuses and be boggled down in conventional wisdom for years. I would prefer to gamble on greatness. Some of these pro franchises are so petrified of an unusual roster dynamic they make one tentative move after another, happily drifting alongside irrelevancy.

Tampa Bay was winless midway through last season, Glennon is nothing special, yet the asking price supposedly was a second rounder. If Manziel did anything, even in preseason, we're suddenly in the chips. Heaven forbid he took over the starting role and we could peddle Tannehill at prime rate.

I like JuWaun James. I made positive comments about him in every related thread. But in following his career since he was mentioned on Canes sites during that recruiting season, I never viewed James as a first rounder. He is a solid hard trying guy with decent but not special athletic ability. I have no idea how that is supposed to put us over the top.

The Vols have been finesse oriented for years. They seldom run the ball. James is a guy I would have been thrilled at in the third round, satisfied in the second. In the first round it feels empty, like we continue to verify that we are overmatched. Basically we forfeited the deep draft aspect. It may have been a deep draft for everybody else. We took a lineman who wouldn't have stood out as great value in the 19 position in ANY draft.

Frankly, once it reached pick 10 I was begging for somebody to take Zach Martin before our turn. I wasn't thrilled with him either. When Dallas snapped him up I was incredibly energized because I assumed it forced our hand and we'd have to gamble. I had no idea we would assign #19 value to another offensive lineman. At that point the only name that worried me was Ha Ha. Instead we manufactured another bizarre route, nicely in tune with 7-9 or 8-8.

We didn't want Terron Armstead late second round last year but we find JuWaun James barely past midway in the first. At one point this franchise was so immune from conventional wisdom paranoia and a log jam at quarterback it took Bob Griese high in the first round one year after picking Rick Norton even higher.
 
When it was our time to pick, I was really worried we'd pick Manziel. I don't think he'll be any good in the pros. Having said that I'm still disappointed we took James. The first round is for playmakers and right tackle certainly isn't a playmaker position.
 
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