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DirecTV / Cable & NFL Sunday Ticket

Last I heard the direct tv contract runs out after this up coming season. The buzz I heard from insider (couple of friends of mine) at Comcast Cable is they will be picking up the Sunday Ticket package when the exclusive contract is up.

So it seems that Sunday ticket should start being available to Cable subscribers who are with some of the larger cable carriers starting as of the 2006 season I believe.
 
FinzManiac said:
Last I heard the direct tv contract runs out after this up coming season. The buzz I heard from insider (couple of friends of mine) at Comcast Cable is they will be picking up the Sunday Ticket package when the exclusive contract is up.

So it seems that Sunday ticket should start being available to Cable subscribers who are with some of the larger cable carriers starting as of the 2006 season I believe.
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I guess you heard wrong because their contract isn't up until 2010. I wish it would end though. The more competition the lower the prices.
 
whatsburning said:
You only get one game a week? How is that? At the minimum, don't you get an early Sunday, late Sunday, and the Monday nighter? That's three. Throw in ESPN (yes, cable) Sunday night and that's four. Here in Hawaii, CBS/FOX/NBC, whoever has the contract, takes turns and shows a doubleheader every Sunday, so we get a total of five games every week.
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Check Yellow's info....he's from Denmark.
 
byroan said:
I guess you heard wrong because their contract isn't up until 2010. I wish it would end though. The more competition the lower the prices.
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Usually, but not in this case.
Competition here is actually BAD for end user prices. The NFL will award the contract to the highest bidder. If the highest bidder happens to be Comcast, who do you think is gonna pay for the rights to broadcast NFL games?

In this case, the companies arent competing for customers (which would lower prices), they are competing for a commodity. The more competition, the higher the price for the commodity (NFL games). That higher price is then passed on to the customer.
 
yankeehillbilly said:
Usually, but not in this case.
Competition here is actually BAD for end user prices. The NFL will award the contract to the highest bidder. If the highest bidder happens to be Comcast, who do you think is gonna pay for the rights to broadcast NFL games?

In this case, the companies arent competing for customers (which would lower prices), they are competing for a commodity. The more competition, the higher the price for the commodity (NFL games). That higher price is then passed on to the customer.
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I'm not talking about competition for the rights. I'm saying the prices would be cheaper if there was no exclusive rights. That means Cable and Dish Network could show the games along with Directv. The company that has the lower prices will get more customers.
 
yankeehillbilly said:
Usually, but not in this case.
Competition here is actually BAD for end user prices. The NFL will award the contract to the highest bidder. If the highest bidder happens to be Comcast, who do you think is gonna pay for the rights to broadcast NFL games?

In this case, the companies arent competing for customers (which would lower prices), they are competing for a commodity. The more competition, the higher the price for the commodity (NFL games). That higher price is then passed on to the customer.
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What he's getting at is that there would be a provision that all that want to pay for it can have Sunday Ticket... that there would be no exclusive contracts.

In that scenario, competition is indeed benefitial to the customer. If DirecTV wants to charge $199 for it, but Comcast will give it to you for $170... you'll probably go with Comcast... thus DirecTV will have to lower the cost, and possibly even undercut Comcast. Good for the customer... very good.
 
byroan said:
I'm not talking about competition for the rights. I'm saying the prices would be cheaper if there was no exclusive rights. That means Cable and Dish Network could show the games along with Directv. The company that has the lower prices will get more customers.
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gotcha. misunderstood your post.

Non exclusive deals would indeed be great....but as long as somebody is willing to ante up the cash for exclusive rights, I can't see the NFL turning them down.
 
jaxdolfan said:
I have DirecTV just for the ticket. I have cable tv hooked up to all my other 8 tv's in the house. It is just too expensive to pay for all those sat boxes to completely switch to DTV.

I wish there was a way to change it, but it is a monopoly. They talk about letting you buy each game at $20. I'd do it, because in Jax, when the home team doesnt sell out, the phin game is on regular tv (and thus blacked out of DirecTV.) I paid $165 or something last season to watch like 6 games.

This season, with us not on national tv ever, it will be more worth it.
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Is there a way to just get the NFL ticket from directv and nothing else, if so how and how much?
 
jaxdolfan said:
I have DirecTV just for the ticket. I have cable tv hooked up to all my other 8 tv's in the house. It is just too expensive to pay for all those sat boxes to completely switch to DTV.

I wish there was a way to change it, but it is a monopoly. They talk about letting you buy each game at $20. I'd do it, because in Jax, when the home team doesnt sell out, the phin game is on regular tv (and thus blacked out of DirecTV.) I paid $165 or something last season to watch like 6 games.

This season, with us not on national tv ever, it will be more worth it.
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:eek: You have 9 TV's in your house? Again... :eek:
 
I really don't understand all the bickering and whining that is going on... people throwing around words like greed and "consumer advocates". The NFL and DirecTV are a business, and their business is to make money, not to provide you with every little luxury you feel you deserve. Because it is a business is follows the laws of supplies and demand. Demand is high and supply is low... therefor the price can continue to increase. If it is "too expensive" for you... there is a simple solution... DON'T BUY IT! But, obviously you feel you are getting your money's worth otherwise you wouldn't be paying.

There are also lots of reasons why the NFL has not allowed cable companies access to the games.

- If there isn't a company that has "exclusive rights" it would drive down the value of package to the point where even though there would be more volume, the margins would be so low on the contracts with the sat/cable co's that it wouldn't be as profitable for the NFL to sell DirecTV an exclusive contract. It would just become "another network" that every cable/sat co has to carry to even be competitive.
- Again, because of no "exclusive rights" there would be competition for the content providers to sell it at a lower price... again driving down profits.
- I beleive the NFL WANTS to keep it as a niche product, because they don't want it to interfere with their primary business of putting on games in live venues. If EVERYONE has access to EVERY game, it makes it less of an experience to actually go out and watch the game. (The NFL is the ONLY sport around that sells out anywhere NEAR the percentage of games that they do.)

In summary, once again... the NFL is a BUSINESS here to sell you a product, not entertain you for free. Obviously there are millions out there willing to pay... if you are not willing, the NFL could care less if you are forced to go watch Figure Skating for free on ESPN.
 
byroan said:
I'm not talking about competition for the rights. I'm saying the prices would be cheaper if there was no exclusive rights. That means Cable and Dish Network could show the games along with Directv. The company that has the lower prices will get more customers.
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And like I said... that will continue to the point where the package is nearly free. And thus loses ALL value. The Cable and Sat Co's would then not be willing to pay the NFL millions upon millions for the rights... it would become a worthless assett.

Great for consumers... VERY bad for business. The NFL would then be giving away a premium service for nothing. They are going to make their money somehwhere and it's likely to be ticket sales... but if EVERYONE has EVERY game available to them on TV for free... the demand for going to the games would be less.
 
grooves12 said:
And like I said... that will continue to the point where the package is nearly free. And thus loses ALL value. The Cable and Sat Co's would then not be willing to pay the NFL millions upon millions for the rights... it would become a worthless assett.

Great for consumers... VERY bad for business. The NFL would then be giving away a premium service for nothing. They are going to make their money somehwhere and it's likely to be ticket sales... but if EVERYONE has EVERY game available to them on TV for free... the demand for going to the games would be less.
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Nah, if the NFL worked out a fee for every subscriber, they could make more money. The providers could use it as a loss leader to get subscribers, but the NFL could make even more monry.

MLB offers all games on cable and on the INternet for significantly less with more games. I bet they are not losing money.
 
Here's my problem. I live in the Philadelphia area and I am an avid Flyers fan as well as a Dolphin fan. If I were to get Direct TV I lose the Flyers which I am not prepared to do. On direct TV yes you can get center ice but they blackout the home team due to copyright BS. I already get the Flyers on my cable. Even if they broadcasted home teams on direct tv I am looking at the same money approx. as cable then $150+ for each the NHL and NFL packages. It's all a rip off I am almost to the point where I say screw all these cable and sattelite people and go back to rabbit ears and I get what i get. Don't care anymore. Before you know it you'll be pay per view to watch any game a home team or not. We are giving in to these people. Give an inch take a yard etc.. Youll see it'll happen.
 
I that I know is I can't afford $220 for Sunday Ticket. I will be watching a helmet with lines on a field here on the PC screen.
 
SleepWithDaFish said:
I that I know is I can't afford $220 for Sunday Ticket. I will be watching a helmet with lines on a field here on the PC screen.
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I here ya same here. It's going to be a lot more this year because we don't have one game on espn or abc.
 
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