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Do the bills scare you?

arm strength is not what makes QB's elite.

Not at all. But you need to be able to make all of the throw. Fitz, from what I have seen, cannot.

For example, Brady does not have elite arm strength, but he can make all of the throws. See what I mean? It's a dichotomy.
 
Football is cool! Can't wait to see how the big heads prepare. "Big heads" meaning HC, GM, etc. in the AFC East.
 
The Bills in general don't scare me. There offense isn't top notch. But that defensive line is something to be scared of.

Willams, Dareus, K Williams. All great players. Anderson isnt really anything special. But can shine next to those 3 guys.
 
Ok guess it is time for the resident Bills fan to chime in here. I read every post and saw a lot of what I expected. I will not come in here and say we are going to win the Superbowl or even the Division. Heck I will not even say we will be the fine right now. Need to see some football before I claim that. So instead I will tell my rivals fans here what I like and dislike about this current Bills team.

Likes:
1. Team speed. This offense and defense has infused some nice team speed this offseason particularly in the Draft.
2. The Defensive Line. Mario Williams, Marcel Dareus, Kyle Williams, Mark Anderson is pretty formidable. Who do you leave 1 on 1.
3. Offseason on signing their own as well. Been a long time in BLo since that has happened.
4. Chan Gailey knows how to build an offense and finally have some players as well.
5. Team Age. They are all young and will grow together and there is really not a Bad contract on the teams (Marios doesn't even Cap Strap them).
6. Ball Hawking secondary now is finally coupled with what looks like on paper a legit pass rush.

Weaknesses
1. LT (this year) Glenn and Hairston need to step up. I think both will be great in a couple years but needs to happen fast.
2. Still worried about our LBers. Love Bradham and Tank but they are a year to 18 months away from starting
3. NO 2 WR. Lot of speed here someone needs to grab this spot.
4. QB love Fitzy's start but INJ to me make a convienent excuse to cover his flaw that he has shown he drops off at the end of the year. Needs to change that this year or I think they go QB next.

Overall though on paper the Bills are looking greatly improved and should contend. But games are not won on paper.
Judging from afar I can definitely agree with this. Do the Bills have more talent than the Dolphins, I think the Bills biggest weakness is their tackles and the Fins is probably WR/DB. Overall both teams are pretty even but as always QB could be the biggest determinant.
 
I saw that you guys were talking about our offseason and from what people were saying it was humorous, but I actually think you guys make some good points both for and against Bills possible success. The one thing that confuses me, though, are the numerous comments about Buffalo's "bad coaching staff" or Gailey being a bad HC. Can someone explain the logic in this?

From what I see, Gailey started us off 5-2, with the only 2 losses being against playoff teams (SB champion NYG and Cincy), by THREE points each, on the road. Then, we lost half of our starters, and Fitz played with broken ribs. We still beat another playoff team (Denver). I think this, combined with Gailey's coaching success with an aging Cowboys team (who were 6-10 the season before Gailey took over, then 5-11 the season after being fired), shows that Gailey is at the very least a decent coach, but I would argue very good to great.

Thoughts?

Cincy wasn't very good and the Giants were not playing like a playoff team at the time you played them close and should have beaten them. Buf got off to a great start when their D was getting TOs every week, once that stopped they started losing.

Every team has injuries, you were relatively healthy when you hosted the Jets and got crushed which sent your season spiralling out of control.

W/ that said do I think Buf can be a playoff team this year? absolutely, do I think they will be a playoff team? probably not. I want to see Fitz play in and win a big game before I can pencil them in.


The one thing that does scare me is if CJ Spiller finally gets it b/c if he starts playing like a top 10 pick w/ Fred Jackson in that backfield that O will be very good.
 
How about Vince Young?

A lot of Buffalo fans think that Young has a roster spot sewn up, but I'm skeptical. My thought on Young is that he was signed to possibly replace Tyler Thigpen (#2 QB) and Brad Smith(QB/WR), saving on cap and roster space. I don't think Young is as good a QB as Thigpen, so I think it's his skill as a Wildcat QB that will give him an edge.

There's also the question of how smart VY is. His wonderlic score was notorious (it was like 7), and in his previous stops, he failed to dispell the notion that he's not the brightest bulb in the bushel. The Bills don't run a particularly complex offense, but they expect their players to be smart enough to learn it well. That might be Young's biggest challenge.
 
Cincy wasn't very good and the Giants were not playing like a playoff team at the time you played them close and should have beaten them.


Wait!!

Last season when Buffalo barely lost to Cinci, the Bengals became 2-2 on their way to an 8-2 run, outscoring their opponents by 55 points, but they weren't very good as compared to the 09 playoff Bengals the jest faced, who at that time lost 4 of their last 7 games, including to losing teams, and during that period was outscored by nearly 40 points.

But that pathetic win against a dead team walking in a playoff the jets didn't earn because Cinci was once good 8 games before is more relevant than the Cinci team Buffalo lost to who won their next 6 straight games because Cinci was on its way to being very good. - at least for awhile. I C.

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Wait!!

Last season when Buffalo barely lost to Cinci, the Bengals became 2-2 on their way to an 8-2 run, outscoring their opponents by 55 points, but they weren't very good as compared to the 09 playoff Bengals the jest faced, who at that time lost 4 of their last 7 games, including to losing teams, and during that period was outscored by nearly 40 points.

But that pathetic win against a dead team walking in a playoff the jets didn't earn because Cinci was once good 8 games before is more relevant than the Cinci team Buffalo lost to who won their next 6 straight games because Cinci was on its way to being very good. - at least for awhile. I C.



You don't watch a lot of football, do you?

'09 Cincy beat GB at lambeau- playoff bound
swept playoff bound Baltimore
swept 9-7 Pitt who would have made the playoffs if they spli w/ Cincy
They basically had 2 bad games, at a very good Minnesota team and at a very good NYJ team(both conf title game teams)
Clinched very good division in week 16, in 2011 they won WC by losing last week and having other teams lose.

'11 Cincy got swept by Bal & Pitt, lost by an average of 12.5 PPG
lost to den pre-Tebow
Their best win was over Buffalo who would wind up 6-10


Very similar circumstances:lol:
 
You don't watch a lot of football, do you?

'09 Cincy beat GB at lambeau- playoff bound
swept playoff bound Baltimore
swept 9-7 Pitt who would have made the playoffs if they spli w/ Cincy
They basically had 2 bad games, at a very good Minnesota team and at a very good NYJ team(both conf title game teams)
Clinched very good division in week 16, in 2011 they won WC by losing last week and having other teams lose.

'11 Cincy got swept by Bal & Pitt, lost by an average of 12.5 PPG
lost to den pre-Tebow
Their best win was over Buffalo who would wind up 6-10


Very similar circumstances:lol:

09 Bengals were a dead team walking with an actual dead WR by the time the jest played them; the '11 Bengals were a better team on the rise when Buffalo barely lost to them. Spin it all you want but if you're gonna claim credit for game 16, then the Bengals you next faced were 3-4, outscored by 37 points and losing both winning and losing teams by the time they limped into the post season on earlier season fumes.

But of course, when you're counting a 7-7 team who beat teams with a cumulative .310 winning average, losing at home in a legit game they needed to win against a dead Falcons team and recently on a 1-6 losing streak as elite, of course in turn you'd spin the rising Bengals team the Bills met in game 4 as less relevant.

So no, they're not similar; one team was on a 6 game winning streak, outscoring their opponents at that time by 55 points and the team you claim credit for beating in the playoffs was 3-4 and dead, being outscored by nearly 40pts by the time they got to you.

But parse away how a medicore gifted into the playoffs team gets credit for beating a dead team walking while Buffalo is discredited for barely losing to a team that went on a 6 game winning streak.
 
09 Bengals were a dead team walking with an actual dead WR by the time the jest played them; the '11 Bengals were a better team on the rise when Buffalo barely lost to them. Spin it all you want but if you're gonna claim credit for game 16, then the Bengals you next faced were 3-4, outscored by 37 points and losing both winning and losing teams by the time they limped into the post season on earlier season fumes.

But of course, when you're counting a 7-7 team who beat teams with a cumulative .310 winning average, losing at home in a legit game they needed to win against a dead Falcons team and recently on a 1-6 losing streak as elite, of course in turn you'd spin the rising Bengals team the Bills met in game 4 as less relevant.

So no, they're not similar; one team was on a 6 game winning streak, outscoring their opponents at that time by 55 points and the team you claim credit for beating in the playoffs was 3-4 and dead, being outscored by nearly 40pts by the time they got to you.

But parse away how a medicore gifted into the playoffs team gets credit for beating a dead team walking while Buffalo is discredited for barely losing to a team that went on a 6 game winning streak.

If you think the '11 Bengals were anywhere near as good as the '09 Bengals you really don't know what you are watching. I get the whining about your hated div rival having success but for once try and look at things objectively.

Cincy was 1-2 when they faced the Bills, including that game and and the 4 others in theor 5 game win streak they faced teams that would up w/ a combined 29-51 record, they beat one team w/ a winning record all year(9-7 Ten). W/in the division alone 2009 Cincy beat 4 teams w/ winning records including 2 games over a playoff bound team.
 
I'm a Dolphin fan & we'll be drafting high next year too ... all teams scare me.

First year ROOKIE coaches are NEVER a good thing ... hope Philbin works out & is around a long time though!!

Tell that to the 49ers. I'd say there new coach made them drastically better right away
 
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