Do you guys remember Tom Brady's rookie year?

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feeley's 4th quarter stats, for two games....33 att 23comp 69.7% 223yds 2 Tds 0 INT 108.5 QBR

 

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feeley's 4th quarter stats, for two games....33 att 23comp 69.7% 223yds 2 Tds 0 INT 108.5 QBR

Those stats are deceiving considering Titans game stats came in prevents defense.

 

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Feeley deserves the full season to develop and show what he has. You will know by the end of the year whether you have your franchise QB IMO.

I agree.

People should stop panicking and let A.J play out the rest of the season.He played horrible last game but this is work in progress.

 

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Those stats are deceiving considering Titans game stats came in prevents defense.

He had a 106 rating for the bengals game..... that he brought us back to tie the game at the end.

Deceiving or not, they are what they are.

 

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He had a 106 rating for the bengals game..... that he brought us back to tie the game at the end.

Deceiving or not, they are what they are.

Like I said deceiving.

The Dolphins need a TD not a FG on his final drive which was a 3 and out.

 

[Muck]

I saw something different in that 2001 Dolphins-Pats game.

Yes, Brady was outgunned that day. It was his second professional start. But it was his TEAM that was outgunned. Not Brady. Brady was very poised that game. Even with the team being down a ton in the 4th, with the Pro Player crowd loud as heck and all hope lost (with the Pats backed up on their own end in obvious passing/shotgun formations), Brady was back there directing the team, yelling and directing them into position at the LOS.

I remember being very impressed with him from Day 1. He never lost his composure that day. Never lost his head. He was not the Tom Brady he is today. That came with experience. And he didn't light the world on fire that first year. What Tom Brady did was keep his composure and keep his mistakes to a minimum, while flashing some clutch ability. It also helped that he already had a year in Charlie Weiss' offense. All QBs, especially young ones, benefit from this.

But no, his OL wasn't as bad as this one.

 

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Like I said deceiving.

The Dolphins need a TD not a FG on his final drive which was a 3 and out.

:smackhead: somebody should have told Feeley we needed a TD and not a FG...what the he// was he thinking??

 

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:smackhead: somebody should have told Feeley we needed a TD and not a FG...what the he// was he thinking??

The point is that he had excellent filed position and accomplish nothing.His 4th QB Rating shouldn't be taken all that seriously.

First game - Prevent defesne which inflated his stats.

Second game - He did ok if you consider the circumstances.

 

[Lawrence]

I say let Jay play the 1st 3 quarters, then sub in AJ. :roflmao:

 

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The point is that he had excellent filed position and accomplish nothing.His 4th QB Rating shouldn't be taken all that seriously.

Was it just Feeley that accomplished nothing or was it the whole offense that accomplished nothing?

One three and out and all his fourth quarter play should be discounted??

What a joke.

 

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Was it just Feeley that accomplished nothing or was it the whole offense that accomplished nothing?

One three and out and all his fourth quarter play should be discounted??

What a joke.

I give up.

Feeley is A MONSTER when the game reaches 4th quater!

 

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I give up.

Feeley is A MONSTER when the game reaches 4th quater!

70% completion percentage.....2 TDs ....0 TOs. Against a prevent or a massive rush he still played well....and it's still his strongest quarter BY FAR.

Yes, so far he has proven to be A MONSTER in the fourth quarter, under two completely different scenarios.

 

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70% completion percentage.....2 TDs ....0 TOs. Against a prevent or a massive rush he still played well....and it's still his strongest quarter BY FAR.

Yes, so far he has proven to be A MONSTER in the fourth quarter, under two completely different scenarios.

 

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What I do remember though is that by the third week or so, when they lost to San Diego, which was a pretty bad team under Reily (Was that spelled right?); A lot of Analyst were comparing Drew Bledsoe with Archie Manning as a QB with Absolutely NO Talent around him. I thought it was hillarious that they won the whole thing without him.

And yes Tom Brady did not throw an interception on his first three games but it was due to the conservative nature of the playcalls. Much like fieldler went nine without on in 2000. Brady did not put amazing numbers or looked spectacular. In fact by the begining of the 2002 season a lot of people were still asking if Brady was for real. Then of course he torched Pittsburg on the opener and that's pretty much the whole story. But the first year NE was very conservative under Brady.

Maybe they should keep it simple for awhile with Feely. Maybe we should go max protect and don't gamble that much. I can't believe I just said that but bottom line is if we hadn't thrown those interceptions for TD we wouldn't be 0-2. The defense would have won it for us. Instead the Offense Lost it.

Remember when Fiedler went 9 games without an INT. Wasn't that the last time we won the Division. Were we not very conservative that year. Although Lamar Smith did help some. Maybe I should Start a post named WE SHOULD BE MORE CONSERVATIVE. I'll get insulted for sure.

But somehow while I was writing this post it occured to me NE was VERY conservative on Offense that 2001 season. They didn't had a very good RB, and an unproven QB and a bunch of Noname receivers who lacked speed. In fact i remember Bill Bellichick saying prior to the Super Bowl: "We need to get points from the defense cause were not gonna score enough points on offense to keep up with these guys". And that they did.

Any thoughts on this? I mean for years I've advocated for agresiveness in the offense but against some teams that we can dominate defensively like Cinci and Pitt maybe it would be better if we don't try to make feely win the game.

 

[lereux]

Guys:

The Pats 2001 season should actually be the model for the Dolphins this year. The Pats had absolutely nothing on offense. Brady was a rookie. Terry Glenn was suspended. They had one veteran receiver (Troy Brown), a no-name David Patten, and some stiff named Charles Johnson at the other WR spot. TEs were Rod Rutledge and Jermaine Wiggins. They had a rookie LT (Matt Light) and a bunch of stiffs on the O-line and Antwoin "Pokey" Smith at running back.

Their entire offensive philosophy was to not lose games. They were mostly happy with a nice safe 3 and out as a solid offensive series. The defense was very opportunistic, forcing a lot of turnovers and scoring points. Tom Brady's contribution was protecting the football and leading some spectacular game-winning drives with the 2-minute offense, following 58 minutes of just trying to keep the game close. They nickle and dimed their way to the Super Bowl on the back of a great defense and superb game-planning.

It was in 2002, that Weis surprised everyone by coming out of the gate with the pass-happy, quick-release, short passing game. They blew out their first two opponents and the short passing attack worked OK for a while. However, defenses started loading up on the short passing game and the Pats didn't have a downfield passing game or a running attack to capitalize.

In 2003, with Brady in his third season as a starter and with some serious speed with young WR they had been drafting, Weis took the shackles off Brady and started throwing the ball downfield -- you might remember a game winning long-ball in overtime in Miami last fall. The deep ball served to loosen up defenses. But remember, Weis didn't turn Brady loose until his third season, following a LOT of off-season work on the deep passing game. We've seen this downfield passing game continue so far this year; in fact, we've seen very little of the dink 'n dunk screen passes in the first two games. It's been mostly Corey Dillon moving the chains on the ground, interspersed with passes 15 to 25 yards downfield. Brady leads the AFC in touchdown passes at the two-week mark, with 5 notches in his belt. I do expect to see the Pats dust off the dink n' dunk screen pass game at some point, probably against a blitz-happy, over-pursuing defense.

What Wanny needs to do is look at the Pats in 2001. He has a solid, opportunistic defense and an offense that can't punch its way out of a wet paper bag. For him to be calling lots of downfield passes with that O-line and Feeley's first start the other night was truly criminal. That's how you kill a young QB. Wanny should be playing pure field position football and the goal of every offensive series should be to avoid taking loses and turnovers, with a good series scratching and clawing to a first down or two. Punt the ball deep and play defense.

I actually hadn't read this by the time I posted. But we pretty much think the same thing. As I posted above. Wanny needs to protect Feely make it easy for him to adjust. Make him crawl before he can walk. That's what the Pat's did with Brady with good results. And if the comparison with Brady sparks controversy I'll say that that's what we did with Fiedler in 2000 and had pretty good results. No QB has come right in and torched a defense in his first start. Well yeah actually one did but he's retired now.