Does Tannehill want it?

[joenhre]

He should be mad at himself and embarrassed with the way he played. The entire team should feel the same way. If they don't come out fired up Sunday then this is going to be a long season. i don't give a ish that KC is 0-2 and in desperation mode. The Dolphins were a pitiful once again vs Buffalo and should be ashamed. They need to come out and beat up on the Chiefs.

 

[FSU Truth]

LMAO thats great that you mentioned, because, it HAS to be the OL's fault, right? Its always the OL's fault, duh shamegame13! What am I thinking!?!? How can I be so stupid?!?! It cant be the fact that RT is holding on to the ball way too long and has to learn how to make a play behind the LoS or get rid of the ball sooner, right? It cant be the fact that the OL was the only thing that had to improve from last year, right? RT didnt need to improve on those areas, right? Its always the OL's fault! It cant be the fact that RT's pocket presence just SUCKS, right? We have 4 brand new OL and they all suck at pass protection too.:sidelol: At this rate, were gonna have 40 new OL in the next 5 years with RT because they will all always suck at pass protection and it will never be that RT has statue-itis in the pocket. He is the clutch time performer of Tony Romo in Dallas without the stats, or, He is the spirit broken Eli Manning in New York without the SB rings, or, He is a statue in the pocket Joe Flacco without the SB ring, or, He is an inaccurate Alex Smith in San Francisco without the career revival. He is the leaderless Jay Cutler in Chicago with the hot wife. Today, he is worse then all those QB's.

Looks like someone ate their Wheaties this morning...solid, try hard, troll effort.

 

[BSQ]

We are having growing pains with the new offense. It will get sharper in time. On top of that we're really having major bad luck with injuries and we simply do not have the quality depth to step in and do the job at a high level. Moreno being out guts our team in the worst way possible. He is the difference maker in that he is a dynamic player, an emotional leader and I hope he can bounce back sooner than later. It will be tough to win without him and I'm not comforted that Danial Thomas is back. Maybe Darkwa or Williams can fill in and give us a lift but it's a story we all know very well. You can't run the ball, play action becomes meaningless, we become predictible and all bets are off. As far as Tannehill, I've been a big supporter but I need to see more fire and accuracy and we must hit some long passes. I wonder about his mental makeup. When he is interviewed he sounds more like a kid than a grown man. He is always saying things like, " it was fun and I'm excited." That's not how I want my QB to talk. Maybe he lacks focus during actual games, for a bright guy decisions are slow and many times wrong and I'm not sure he's handling the pressure well. He makes a ton of bad throws and I hope Lazor can get this thing fixed. Let's route KC and we'll all feel much better. Big difference between 2-1 and 1-2!

 

[EricCartman]

I don't geti this "passionate2 thing about the football: if he really didn't care about it, why insist to be a WR (with all the hits and punishments ) just to be part of the game? how many QB will be willing to take that kind of hits just to play?

IMO, he wants it for sure, but that won't be the decisive factor. he just has to settle and improve, like he has done the years before (it is funny to read that he is the same player of day 1). If he can't, that's it for him in Miami. not that hard to get it


on a side note: RT has never use the OL as an excuse. the neutral observers and the fans talked about how the OL and WR-less team of year 1 and 2 limited his plays. he didn't say a word.

 

[phins_4_ever]

Speaking of noticing things, nothing like a 4 sack game and double digit QB pressures to further signify solid pass protection.

Please come on now. Every OL allows QB pressures and sacks do happen. You probably can count on one hand the OLs every year who do not allow any pressure at all. Most QBs avoid pressure by stepping up in the pocket or releasing the ball quicker. That is called pocket presence. Most QBs also realize pressures and blitzes prior to the snap and counter act. That is called reading a defense. Our OL is completely rebuild in one offseason and is looking much better than last year. Perfect? Not at all but workable and improved. I expect my QB to be able to work with an OL like that.

At what point do we eliminate excuses?

 

[SSnowman]

Please come on now. Every OL allows QB pressures and sacks do happen. You probably can count on one hand the OLs every year who do not allow any pressure at all. Most QBs avoid pressure by stepping up in the pocket or releasing the ball quicker. That is called pocket presence. Most QBs also realize pressures and blitzes prior to the snap and counter act. That is called reading a defense. Our OL is completely rebuild in one offseason and is looking much better than last year. Perfect? Not at all but workable and improved. I expect my QB to be able to work with an OL like that.

At what point do we eliminate excuses?

Don't forget, Dolphins made Tom Brady look like garbage because of the pressure. He was missing receivers all day because of it.

The OL was improved in the Patriots game. They still got manhandled vs the Bills.

 

[FSU Truth]

Please come on now. Every OL allows QB pressures and sacks do happen. You probably can count on one hand the OLs every year who do not allow any pressure at all. Most QBs avoid pressure by stepping up in the pocket or releasing the ball quicker. That is called pocket presence. Most QBs also realize pressures and blitzes prior to the snap and counter act. That is called reading a defense. Our OL is completely rebuild in one offseason and is looking much better than last year. Perfect? Not at all but workable and improved. I expect my QB to be able to work with an OL like that.

At what point do we eliminate excuses?

There is a thing called reasonable amount of pressure....this was dominance (in the first half) and there were several times that Tannehill did do just that (avoid pressure)...this is not to say Tannehill is not to blame (on one of the sacks he did indeed hold the ball far too long).

I love how making a point about "team effort" is making excuses, but putting sole blame on the QB is considered a valid point?

 

[mrbunglez]

Yes the Oline is upgraded from last and yes they don't have to deal with the debacle of The Martin incognito fallout. But the line still has issues. Backup center and 2 guards that aren't very good. Yes they have both bookend tackles to build from who are very good but let's not say this oline is perfect, the bills showed just how bad the interior portion of that line is. I'm sick of people thinking this oline is perfect. Can't wait for Pouncey to come back. With that said I'm still a Tannehill supporter unless he completely bottoms out by the end of the season, he needs to adjust, complete the passes, better his accuracy, and FRICKEN ROLL OUT OF THE POCKET WHEN HE FEELS PRESSURE.

 

[FinSolari]

I think Tannehill is looking forward to enrolling in medical school after his contract with the fins is up.

 

[mrbunglez]

We all heard and read about them plug and playing the guards throughout the offseason, like musical chairs.

 

[BSQ]

Manuel bought time in the pocket a few times. Tannehill has to learn to move around so he's not a sitting duck. A QB has to be able to feel pressure coming and get away from it. He's fast but he's not using his speed to buy time. He is thinking too much out there with this new system. Hopefully he will eventually thrive under Lazors guidance like Foles did. Hopefully is a big word. When he drop back and throws in rhythm he is always excellent. When he doesn't he is below average. The long ball is a big weakness and may be his undoing. A franchise guy hits those passes. I'm pulling for him. There is a lot of good there.

 

[jvw]

I guess Joe Montana should have yelled and screamed more so people would think he wanted it more smh.... photo ops doesn't do it for me..... does he put in the work in the off season, does he put in extra film work, does he work extra with his receivers, does the team respect him.....I think the answer is yes in all of the questions. The question should be does he have enough talent to be one the greats....not so sure about that answer.....

 

[Fins1971]

Speaking of noticing things, nothing like a 4 sack game and double digit QB pressures to further signify solid pass protection.

3 sacks came early and the score was only 6-0. The last sack came after the game was over 26-10

There is almost a 2 1/2 quarter stretch were the line held up with no sacks. In that period we scored a whopping 10 points.

Pressure happens to ever QB. It is their job to get away and make a play or get rid of the ball.

4 sack games are NOT good but the timing of these sack were not the deciding factor in this game. And One of the sacks was on RT17 for holding it too long.

 

[Mike13]

If I wanted to hear a mental midget whine and call himself a body language expert, I'd listen to Bill Simmons' podcast.

 

[Sons Of Shula]

Please come on now. Every OL allows QB pressures and sacks do happen. You probably can count on one hand the OLs every year who do not allow any pressure at all. Most QBs avoid pressure by stepping up in the pocket or releasing the ball quicker. That is called pocket presence. Most QBs also realize pressures and blitzes prior to the snap and counter act. That is called reading a defense. Our OL is completely rebuild in one offseason and is looking much better than last year. Perfect? Not at all but workable and improved. I expect my QB to be able to work with an OL like that.

At what point do we eliminate excuses?

It's not an excuse. It's a reality. It was a general response to an off-the-wall post.

I thought week 1 was evident in showing what pressure and no running threat can do to any QB, no matter the caliber. I'm not being a homer here as I am very aware that Tannehill did not play a good game and I understand the concern as there should be. But on the same hand, I also understand, without offering excuse but fact, that it's only week 2 and week 2 in a new system. I am also very aware that the team played horribly in all 3 aspects of the game. The total emphasis of blame on the QB after the Bills loss is a fantasy football/media mentality. It is not shared among level-headed football minds whom grasp team concepts and their failures.