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Dolphins, Brown Still Far Apart

finswin56 said:
Cleary, any of us would "settle" for this.
But, Ronnie's current offer incluceds incentives that would make it not probable that he could make as much as the #3 pick. This is what's wrong.

It doesn't matter what the dollar ammount is. There is a right to do business. If you pick a guy w/ the #2 pick, then suck it up and pay him #2 money.
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That has been my opinion all along. I think Saban is screwing this over. If he has total control, then get that man in camp! Why are you now trying to be tight fisted?? What the heck was he thinking on draft day...did he think France was the next Master P??
For someone who is suppose to be so damn organized, he sure screwed this up.
 
Superself said:
That has been my opinion all along. I think Saban is screwing this over. If he has total control, then get that man in camp! Why are you now trying to be tight fisted?? What the heck was he thinking on draft day...did he think France was the next Master P??
For someone who is suppose to be so damn organized, he sure screwed this up.
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I honestly don't know how much Saban contributes to the salary numbers. I assume it's more of a "just get it done" or "hold the line" type of thing from him. But, I do feel he probably has enough influence to make sure we do the right thing.
 
ch19079 said:
i guess thats what the article says. but to me if A. Smith got 24 mil in garentees, and Edwards got 18.5 garenteed, i just dont see 19.5 mil. as being "middle ground".

to me 21.5 mil, is middle ground.
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See, that isn't true, it's not a perfect middle ground. What is the compensation difference between trading up from #2 to #1, as opposed to #3 to #2??? Not perfectly even. Therefore the contract number shouldn't be perfectly even between #1 and #3..it should be skewed slightly toward #3.
 
RELAX..... these type of negotiations are NORMAL!... The Phins are lowballing.. but thats part of the bargaining process.

They'll get it done...We have an EXTRA preseason game... As far as Im concerned Id like to see him signed and in the lineup by the 4th game... but I think it will be done by late next week.
 
Uhhhhhhhhh......Ronnie, Cedric Benson, PacMan Jones, and David Pollack are the only #1 draftees not signed now....we are beyond "normal" now.
 
Alex Smith got overpaid by the worst team in football. I'm sure Saban and most everyone else in the league can attest to that, including Brown. Mueller and Saban are offering a salary to Brown based on what Smith "should" have got.
 
Schleprock said:
See, that isn't true, it's not a perfect middle ground. What is the compensation difference between trading up from #2 to #1, as opposed to #3 to #2??? Not perfectly even. Therefore the contract number shouldn't be perfectly even between #1 and #3..it should be skewed slightly toward #3.
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i guess its a personal opinion thing.

if it was me, i dont think 2 million dollars is "slightly skewed". i also see a HUGE drop off between 24 million and 19.5 million.
 
Megatron said:
Alex Smith got overpaid by the worst team in football. I'm sure Saban and most everyone else in the league can attest to that, including Brown. Mueller and Saban are offering a salary to Brown based on what Smith "should" have got.
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so now you can blame the 49ers. but his contract set the standard.
 
Schleprock said:
Agreed, this is just ridiculous now. $19.5 million guaranteed wasn't acceptable by France and Brown. Well, now they see what Edwards got and they realize $19.5 guaranteed is accurate. Soooooo, now their gripe is "Ronnie doesn't have a chance to make $30million" With all do respect Ronnie...BOOO-EFFIN-HOOO!!!! For crying out loud, $19.5 mil guaranteed isn't going to set you for the rest of your life if you don't p1ss it all away???
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Bro... I could have agreed with you a couple of days ago before Braylon signed. But the fact is, is that the #2 should always make more than the #3... thats how it works. It has been slotted what Ronnie should make now and he should get paid it... Ronnies contract should be equal to or better than Braylons... period. Its the business side of it and its how it works. The Dolphins have been tryin to low ball Ronnie until this point and that is fine because they are lookin out for whats best for the organization... but now that he is slotted, the Dolphins dont have a choice and need to sack up and pay the man. Braylons contract enables him to make 40 million and Ronnie can only make 30 million? thats a 10 million dollar difference! Ya, 30 million is still a **** load of money, but thats the nature of the business and the league... they get paid alot... And the Dolphins need to realize this and make his contract compairable to Braylons but with a 19.5 million signing bonus over Braylons 18.2

Nasty
 
ch19079 said:
so now you can blame the 49ers. but his contract set the standard.
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It's not the first time the Niners have overpaid for results right now. No wonder they are constantly in cap hell. Also I blame the Niners for the common cold, and the Cowboys for diarrhea.
 
Megatron said:
It's not the first time the Niners have overpaid for results right now. No wonder they are constantly in cap hell. Also I blame the Niners for the common cold, and the Cowboys for diarrhea.
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that must be why every time i hear the phrase, "americas team" i want to take a huge ****.
 
Alex Smith's deal is supposedly $24 million of guaranteed money over 6 years.

24/6=$4 million average per year.

Ronnie Browns' $19.5 million now that the Dolphins have reduced the term to 5 years.

19.5/5=$3.9 million average per year.

Robert Gallery 18.3/6yrs=$3.05 million average per year.

This seems like a pretty good compromise to me, which also gets Brown into Free Agency one year earlier when he will still be 28 years old. Surprising when the Dolphins could easily keep Brown under contract for 6 years for a few million more now. That's the trade off though. If Ronnie becomes a super star it was a poor decision. If Ronnie is average then it’s a good decision. Isn't the life of a normal back 5 or 6 years???

Now as reported the problem is the total contract, which as of now is unknown except that a total of $30 million is not reachable. This seems very low considering the #3 pick can easily make $28 million over 5 years.

Edwards received a five-year deal with $18.2 million guaranteed and a maximum value of $40 million. However, the more reasonable estimate of Edwards' deal is that he will make between $28 million and $30 million over the course of the contract.

A source close to the NFL Players Association said the Dolphins' offer to Brown does not include a reasonable way for him to make $30 million with incentives, creating the holdup in the deal.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/football/12363974.htm
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