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Dolphins, Brown Still Far Apart

Merman said:
Alex Smith's deal is supposedly $24 million of guaranteed money over 6 years.

24/6=$4 million average per year.

Ronnie Browns' $19.5 million now that the Dolphins have reduced the term to 5 years.

19.5/5=$3.9 million average per year.

Robert Gallery 18.3/6yrs=$3.05 million average per year.

This seems like a pretty good compromise to me, which also gets Brown into Free Agency one year earlier when he will still be 28 years old. Surprising when the Dolphins could easily keep Brown under contract for 6 years for a few million more now. That's the trade off though. If Ronnie becomes a super star it was a poor decision. If Ronnie is average then it’s a good decision. Isn't the life of a normal back 5 or 6 years???

Now as reported the problem is the total contract, which as of now is unknown except that a total of $30 million is not reachable. This seems very low considering the #3 pick can easily make $28 million over 5 years.
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good info. for some reason i thaugth smiths contract was for 5 years. :smackhead

it definatly sounds like its the fins lowballing brown, that is keeping the deal from being done.
 
Ronnie needs to just sign the contract the Dolphins are offering.B.Edwards will be playing for the Browns and R.Crennell will need a few years before the team will be good enough for him to make his insentives.Also no matter what if Ronnie turns out to be a super stud you know that his agent will get him to hold out for more money no matter what the Dolphins pay him now.This will happen,just look around the NFL now.I hope they fix this in the next agreement.
 
ch19079 said:
good info. for some reason i thaugth smiths contract was for 5 years. :smackhead

it definatly sounds like its the fins lowballing brown, that is keeping the deal from being done.
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With no information on the incentives there is no way to tell. If the incentive is for yards gained at 1500 a year then yes that would be low balling. But what if they are negotiating over 750 to 1000 yards??? Maybe the play time incentive is being negotiated between 75 to 35%???

No one has ever claimed the Dolphin negotiators are push overs. They do deal with Rosenhaus all the time. :)
 
It may be the status quo, but I can't see any logical reason why the signing of other players should set the value of Ronnie Brown. Does the fact that Smith gets 24mil from SF make Ronnie more valuable to us? Does it up Ronnie's yards at the end of the year? Of course not. Does it tell us anything we didn't know about the value of Ronnie's performance to the team? Of course not. A 2000-yard season is worth just as much regardless of how much another team is paying their quarterback!

It wasn't a very good high-level draft year and running backs are not nearly as valuable as quarterbacks. That's the reality. The fact that other teams are in denial shouldn't affect what we do. Cap-wise even the current Dolphin's offer worries me. Even if he is awesome I'm not sure a running back is worth that much of our salary cap. A lesser RB and some OL investments would look better to this dolphan. At least with OL improvements we gain QB protection as well, which is also sorely needed.

The paying of rookies has spiraled out of control, and the reason is the teams. If they had held firm earlier, things would not be in such a state now. Teams like SF are the problem. I'd rather offer what the guy is worth and if he doesn't like it he can see the season from his living room and watch his NFL dreams slide away. Nobody is going to pay a still-green Ronnie 20mil guaranteed next year if he doesn't sign and play this year.

Looks like the Eagles are taking the right tack with TO, reading "Eagles to Owens: It's here or nowhere" on NFL.com right now. http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PHI/8726975
 
serious?...omg...France is getting to be a pain in the ***...like rosenhaus...sign already
 
PhinSoldia said:
jesus i am begining to think that Saban and Crew are the one thats being Stiff about this.....i'm sorry but if 1 and 3 signs its very easy to have middle ground....
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i completely disagree. everything i have seen from Ronnie and his agent is 22mill gaureenteed 22mill gaureenteed 22mill gaureenteed 22mill gaureenteed well you get the point. while miami has up there gareenteed money a couple of times, added and changed the incentives, this last time miami even changed the length of the contract from 6 years to where ronnie could be a free agent after 5 years. that way porportionaly ronnie gets more. so i don't see how you can blame this on miami. no the real problem is Ronnie brown and Todd France. they have tunnel vision on getting 22mill in gaureentees and they are not even negotiating it. they just keep saying 22mill gaureenteed 22mill gaureenteed 22mill gaureenteed.
 
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