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Dolphins fan starts petition to move Jordan to LB

Is this the same person who wrote that whole dissertation about how Jeff Ireland did an unbelievable job as GM and should be retained?
 
Because the coaches don't have a better idea on how to use him?
 
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This is a complete waste of time. Now I have lost 3 minutes of my life that I will never get back reading about this.
 
I dont get all the negativity to this...you do not spend a #3 overall pick on a part time player...When exactly is Dion supposed to get in at DE, he is not going to get in over Wake or Vernon, so should we just keep him on the bench every play that they are on the field? How can he get better at anything only coming in on 3rd down (if he's lucky)? Put him out at OLB and let him impact the game...sitting on the bench he is worthless...

Answer this question, what good is he doing for us sitting on the bench, unless we are planning on trading wake or vernon....is he just there to give them a breath?
 
Dmarino110 said:
I dont get all the negativity to this...you do not spend a #3 overall pick on a part time player...When exactly is Dion supposed to get in at DE, he is not going to get in over Wake or Vernon, so should we just keep him on the bench every play that they are on the field? How can he get better at anything only coming in on 3rd down (if he's lucky)? Put him out at OLB and let him impact the game...sitting on the bench he is worthless...

Answer this question, what good is he doing for us sitting on the bench, unless we are planning on trading wake or vernon....is he just there to give them a breath?
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When they drafted him they didn't know how Vernon would be at DE. Lets not pretend Vernon was a 10 year vet, he was a 3rd round pick from a year prior asked to bulk up to be a DE, just like Jordan. So when we drafted him, as far as the staff was concerned, we didn't have anything proven at DE. If one works out and one doesn't, you are still in good shape. If both work out you've got yourself a good problem to have, 2 players legitimately competing and pushing each other, and depth. If neither works out you're ****ed.

As far as Vernon goes he had a good year statistically in terms of sacks but according to PFF and others he's still just an average DE. I think it would be more than a little prudent to consider the position completely fixed at this point based off of one year of mediocre play. Plus Dion Jordan would be asked to take Misi's role who graded out pretty well at that position, I don't think you're going to get this assumed bump up in defensive production, thats even if Jordan proves to be as good as Misi was in that role.

People just assume Jordan [STRIKE]can be[/STRIKE] already is just as good as Von Miller who I'm sure the Broncos would love to rush the passer and drop into coverage on every down if it were possible. Jordan needs polish, and a lot of it, no matter where he lines up, and right now we're polishing him to be a DE.

And I really don't care what they do with him at this point to be honest, just playing devils advocate.
 
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And another thing, after drafting Jordan and extending Misi some people *COUGH* CK *COUGH* predicted Vernon was as good as gone. I think the problem is we've had such a thin roster without depth for so long that just the hint of some gets people overreacting and talking all crazy.
 
Dmarino110 said:
I dont get all the negativity to this...you do not spend a #3 overall pick on a part time player...When exactly is Dion supposed to get in at DE, he is not going to get in over Wake or Vernon, so should we just keep him on the bench every play that they are on the field? How can he get better at anything only coming in on 3rd down (if he's lucky)? Put him out at OLB and let him impact the game...sitting on the bench he is worthless...

Answer this question, what good is he doing for us sitting on the bench, unless we are planning on trading wake or vernon....is he just there to give them a breath?
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Well he should get in over Shelby which he didn't. If he showed something he would play more. Lets quit acting like we are holding him back.

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roy_miami said:
When they drafted him they didn't know how Vernon would be at DE. Lets not pretend Vernon was a 10 year vet, he was a 3rd round pick from a year prior asked to bulk up to be a DE, just like Jordan. So when we drafted him, as far as the staff was concerned, we didn't have anything proven at DE. If one works out and one doesn't, you are still in good shape. If both work out you've got yourself a good problem to have, 2 players legitimately competing and pushing each other, and depth. If neither works out you're ****ed.

As far as Vernon goes he had a good year statistically in terms of stats but according to PFF and others he's still just an average DE. I think it would be more than a little prudent to consider the position completely fixed at this point based off of one year of mediocre play. Plus Dion Jordan would be asked to take Misi's role who graded out pretty well at that position, I don't think you're going to get this assumed bump up in defensive production, thats even if Jordan proves to be as good as Misi was in that role.

People just assume Jordan [STRIKE]can be[/STRIKE] already is just as good as Von Miller who I'm sure the Broncos would love to rush the passer and drop into coverage on every down if it were possible. Jordan needs polish, and a lot of it, no matter where he lines up, and right now we're polishing him to be a DE.

And I really don't care what they do with him at this point to be honest, just playing devils advocate.
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Jordan was not even close to the college player that Miller was yet they assume because we take him high he will just turn it on
 
Wonder why they haven't tried putting him next to Wake and blitzing the same side. I can imagine on nickel packages Wake moving to DT like in the Bengals game, and putting jordan next to him on the RT. I think with Wake's leverage and hand use he could wreak havoc on the interior and then Jordan flying by the RT straight shot to the QB. Like seriously, give him some space, I saw this sports science vid on him and they said that in 3 steps he could go from 0 to 18 miles per hour.... Go wide on the DL and give him some space to accelerate and it's over.
 
dlockz said:
Well he should get in over Shelby which he didn't. If he showed something he would play more. Lets quit acting like we are holding him back.
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I agree! This could likely just be a bad pick by a bad GM. I had high hopes for Jordan coming into this year and was very disappointed he did nothing vs Atlanta's backups the other night.
 
DolfanISS said:
I agree! This could likely just be a bad pick by a bad GM. I had high hopes for Jordan coming into this year and was very disappointed he did nothing vs Atlanta's backups the other night.
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The second round curse.
 
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