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Dolphins pick up 5th year for Pouncey

I think you guys are misunderstanding the 3 through 25 rule. Its 3 through 25 alright......but its an average of all offensive linemen, not just centers. The NFL does not segregate offensive line positions for franchise tags, transition tags, or for any other salary cap purposes. A center gets the OL designation.
 
Southbeach 2 said:
If he was a top ten pick, it may come close to that but, he was not, and it will be maybe half that. I really do not care what Omar said, and would be happy to wager I am right.
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Take it up with Omar and his league source.
 
Southbeach 2 said:
True but, the CBA is specific on 5th year options being on players at their positions. It is different than what you mention.
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No its not. OL is a position.

A fanchise tag also says you get paid the average of the top 5 at your position. If you tag a RG, he gets paid the average of the top 5 OL, not the top 5 RGs. See what I'm saying?
 
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Mike Pouncey: Soon as the Pro Bowl was over, I started training (for 2014); it's a big year for me and this football team. One thing I pride myself on is my work ethic. if I miss a day of workouts, it sits in the back of my mind so I workout every day.
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I'm glad we have exercised the 5th year extension, but I'm with Spesh for once in my life in saying I do have concerns about Pouncey. Having Hernandez and Incog as two of his buddies certainly doesn't suggest he is an upstanding citizen in the community, clearly he is round drugs in some capacity or other.
 
From Omar

The move, which was officially done Tuesday afternoon, was merely a formality. But there's a possibility it won't be the last deal involving Pouncey that gets done this year because signing Pouncey to a multi-year deal could make some sense for both sides.

I'm told Pouncey's fifth-year option is worth $7,428,068, which the average salary of offensive lineman No. 3 through 26 in the entire NFL. That means offensive tackles, guards and centers are in this mix.

However, the average salary for the top 10 NFL centers is $6.427 million, and sources tell me Pouncey is looking for a four or five-year deal which will allow him to continue calling South Florida his home past the 2015 season.

Mike will earn $1.63 million this season on the final year of the four-year, $9.26 million deal he signed as a rookie.

He has a cap figure of $2.94 million when the distribution of his signing bonus is factored in. The fifth-year bringing his two-year total to just over $9 million. However, $7.4 million of that money won't be fully guaranteed until the start of the 2015 season. It is only guaranteed for injury, say Pouncey tears his ACL in 2014.

It is possible the Dolphins could get a multi-year deal done with Pouncey by sweetening that guaranteed payout a little, which would lighten the team's cap burden in 2015. Something that fully guarantees Mike Pouncey $15-16 million (the $9M he's owed and another $6.4M) would be hard to turn down.

Pouncey has little leverage, which means the four-year, $25 million contracts Chris Myers signed with Houston, Max Unger signed with Seattle, and Eric Wood signed with Buffalo are more realistic.

Coincidentally, or not, those recent deals - which were all done in 2012 - pay those upper echelon centers roughly $6.5 million a season.

The question the Dolphins must ask Mike Pouncey is whether he'd accept a similar four-year deal that pays him $6.5 million annually, or would he prefer to make $7.4 million in 2015 and ride out the fifth-year option?

The Dolphins have the cap space to do a multi-year deal with Pouncey now, but they need the motivation.
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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...e-pouncey-make-sense-20140429,0,7627086.story
 
Zounds said:
I think you guys are misunderstanding the 3 through 25 rule. Its 3 through 25 alright......but its an average of all offensive linemen, not just centers. The NFL does not segregate offensive line positions for franchise tags, transition tags, or for any other salary cap purposes. A center gets the OL designation.
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No it is for a players specific position.

The salary for the fifth-year option is also different for two types of players: those selected in the top ten picks and all other first-round selections.

The option for top-ten picks is set at an amount equal to the salary of the Transition Tender (set in Article 10, Section 4 of the CBA) for the player’s fourth contract year. This salary is calculated, basically, by finding the average of the top ten highest Prior Year Salaries for players that played the same position. Positions are defined by the spot a player spent the most plays at during the previous season (Sec. 7, (a), 31).

For players selected between 11th and 32nd in the draft, the same calculation is used to compute their salaries. The difference is that the average of the third through 25th highest Prior Year Salaries for the player’s position equals the player’s fifth-year salary.
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http://in2theleague.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/nfl-cba-series-5th-year-option-for-1st-round-picks/
 
mnphinfan said:
No it is for a players specific position.
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Yes, and for salary purposes, the NFL says the position Pouncey plays is OL. There is no designation for C for salary purposes in the NFL. Its the same way the franchise tag is calculated. Omar is correct.
 
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