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Easy to gain weight...what about strength and power?

Strength usually comes back quicker than size. I see no problems.
 
ChambersNBoston said:
I know some of you might be workout buffs...some of you guys have said how easy it is for Ricky to gain all that weight back...How easy will it be for him to get back to FULL 100% BREAK-TACKLING-DEFENDER-TENDERIZING STRENGTH AND POWER?!?!...Is it possible for him to be Ricky of old...or a weak flexible yoga instructor ? Please Discuss.
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Honestly, it shouldnt be that hard for ricky williams to gain his strength back.. When you get to a certain point and stop working out, your gonna lose a lot of it.. but getting back to that point will not be as hard as gaining new strenght.. if you understand
 
Alien said:
whoa weird, im 200 pounds and bench 250....im guy b though since im trying to build without being bigger than i am now. but i dont know if ricky will ever be the same strength but his flexibility and resistence to injury mightve increased now.
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Dude .. you're FIFTEEN YEARS OLD. I don't mean that in a way as to reduce the validity of what you say. But, a 15 year old compared to a 27 year old football player who held the record for most yards rushing in the HISTORY of the NCAA (that's 4 YEARS of knocking the snot out of BIG defenders) and built a reputation for giving defenders concussions. Then came to the NFL and rushed for over 1800 yards in one season as well as having the most carries over a 2 year period of anyone to ever play the game, all that against some of the biggest, fastest, strongest, hardest hitting MEN on Earth :eek: .

This guy is a real rarity. The natural gifts he has don't just disappear in a year.
 
Alien said:
whoa weird, im 200 pounds and bench 250....im guy b though since im trying to build without being bigger than i am now. but i dont know if ricky will ever be the same strength but his flexibility and resistence to injury mightve increased now.
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?! what are you trying to say? That didnt make much sense at all. Its called muscle memory. You loose muscle mass and when you try to put it back on it comes back quicker and much easier than it would be to trying to get bigger and stronger than you were at your peak trying to gain mass and strength. Its just not my opinion, its a fact.
 
TGall13 said:
As a Martial Arts instructor and Ex-Pro Baseball player, I train a few professional athletes, Greg Vaughn (Brewers, Padres, Reds, Devil Rays), Thomas Howard (Cards) , and Derek Lee (Chicago Cubs) has worked out with us. Mostly Sacaramento guys. They've all said it's helped them with injury prevention, muscle recovery and overall strength and flexibility.
I think there are alot of Pro athletes that are seeing the benefits of cross training.
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Where are you located in sactown????
 
TGall13 said:
As a Martial Arts instructor and Ex-Pro Baseball player, I train a few professional athletes, Greg Vaughn (Brewers, Padres, Reds, Devil Rays), Thomas Howard (Cards) , and Derek Lee (Chicago Cubs) has worked out with us. Mostly Sacaramento guys. They've all said it's helped them with injury prevention, muscle recovery and overall strength and flexibility.
I think there are alot of Pro athletes that are seeing the benefits of cross training.
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TGall13 - I'm in Rocklin.
 
Bill C said:
TGall13 - I'm in Rocklin.
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Right on!
I've recieved a few PM's from people in this area...seems like we're pretty well represented out here. It's cool to see.
 
caneaddict said:
One thing I would first like to say is how everyone talks about how weak Ricky is and that he's in awful shape. I fully disagree - I think he'll be in the best shape of his life by the end of this season.

He's constantly carried the ball - 4 years in college and throughout his pro career - as a bruising back. He took an entire year off doing yoga and ayurvedic medicine. I don't know how much some of you know about Ayrveda but it's not just food - it also involves extensive message and rejuvenation therapies. After a year of eating healthy, being messaged, and doing yoga, I'm saying he is in great condition with a very well rested body. In fact I would expect fewer minor injuries that hurt many backs like hammy's etc.

As for the strength and power - obviously your body can be as well rested and flexible as rubber man but without strength and power you're a sitting duck in the NFL. Having said that, some people naturally are strong and their body reacts quickly to strength training. Ricky is one of those people. He's naturally strong and thick; all he needs is a good nutrition and lifting program. Getting back to where you were is ALOT easier than building to there anew. Here's an example:

Take two guys A and B
Guy A (Ricky) has been 235 lbs. for many years and usually benched 350 lbs.
Guy A takes a year off and comes down to 200 lbs and can now only bench 240 lbs. because he hasn't lifted weights in a year.

Guy B has spent most of his life at 160-170 lbs and has been working hard to get up to his current weight of 200 lbs. He can now bench 240 lbs. (the highest he's ever been)

They are both currently the same size/weight/strength. But it will be MUCH easier for Guy A to make quick gains. Guy A's body type just allows him to hold weight and power/strength better.
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That is great information, appreciate it.
 
ChambersNBoston said:
I know some of you might be workout buffs...some of you guys have said how easy it is for Ricky to gain all that weight back...How easy will it be for him to get back to FULL 100% BREAK-TACKLING-DEFENDER-TENDERIZING STRENGTH AND POWER?!?!...Is it possible for him to be Ricky of old...or a weak flexible yoga instructor ? Please Discuss.
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I used to do powerlifting and I can tell you that when you gain weight you gain strength and power. That won't be an issue for Ricky. He is naturally muscular and it will be relatively easy for him to put muscle back on. What will be more of a challenge will be regaining his explosiveness. The NFL game is SO fast and explosive that he will have to adjust to that speed.
 
Lazy1 said:
For a guy like Ricky it should be pretty easy. It's alot easier to get muscle back if you already had it. For example if a normal person who never realy worked out tried gaining 20 lb's muscle it would be 10X harder than for that person than Ricky. If he fully commits himself he should be able to put the muscle back on in a few months.
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very true!!
 
kizzaboo said:
:shakeno: How do you know that he has lost all agility and explosiveness? You dont. Its unlikely that he has. He will be rusty but doing the things he has done in the past year, with training yoga and the therepy he has been in, if anything, he will be able to become a better athlete.
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The explosiveness is something that takes meticulous care and training. None of us know what his training regime has been the last year. The powerful back we saw in 2002 was a product of years of training.
 
Megatron said:
The explosiveness is something that takes meticulous care and training. None of us know what his training regime has been the last year. The powerful back we saw in 2002 was a product of years of training.
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Power=Speep+Strength

He can regain that through training

He is reforming to his old self. Not forming to something he never was.
 
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