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Eric Steinbach signs one year deal with fins

miamiron said:
The agent for Eric Steinbach, Jack Bechta, said that Steinbach's back surgery was successful and that doctors expect a full recovery. "The operation went really well,'' Bechta said in an email. "There was a loose, unattached bone fragment wedge on the spinal cord nerves. It was removed and the nerves laid back down in their track and Eric is 100 percent pain-free. There was no other structural damage to the nerves nor did they have to touch any of the disk.''
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Im no doc, but that sounds like good news to me. I was worried it was a disc or muscular damage, which never really heals the way it should.
 
Samuda is more in the Philbin mode than Dennis is; I agree with Ck on that one. I was impressed with Samuda in his video highlights, but he has to catch up with the speed of the NFL. IF he does and learns fast, he has a real shot. I also like the Waldron kid from the west coast. I think he has a shot for at least the practice squad.
The fact that Samuda has been tried at center might make the veteran the Dolphins signed last year (forgot his name) expendable.
 
Ryan Cook, and what will make him expendable is his salary which I believe is over a million bucks.
 
If healthy, he could be as good for us as Waters was for the Pats last year.
 
Good all around signing. I'm glad we have him, at worst we have better depth.
 
wow, did we strike another pre-camp find here ala reggie bush?

That is great news.

can u imagine cleveland losing their mind if he has a great year? He took a year off essentially. Bones are rested.

Good bye Jerry....probly headed to NY soon. blew that pick. sparano pick all day.
 
I've just got done watching a game that I'm quite sure the Dolphins watched in their evaluation of Eric Steinbach, and that is the 2010 game between the Cleveland Browns and Miami Dolphins. Yes, somehow, Jake Delhomme and the Browns beat us that day. SMH.

This is just one game. Just one game, so keep that in mind. You need a lot more than this to come up with a proper evaluation.

But overall, I have to say he's not as bad as I was expecting. He clearly moves well, which is a big deal in this system. He gets out and runs with speed and burst. He's pretty balanced. His hands are quick. He understands angles and plays really well when it comes to pulling and screens. He executes well. He cuts his angles tight on pulls and wastes no time making solid contact in the hole, and he neutralized our linebackers when he did that. He pretty much had Dobbins and Dansby in this game when he was asked to pull. But he also had them pretty good when he released on zone plays, and I thought he did a good job there. He owned Tim Dobbins in that game. My one nitpick on pulling is sometimes on collision he just drops his hands after the initial push and so a guy like Dansby who has some mass to him, if he didn't get moved by that initial hit, he can still look for the ball and try get to it.

Back to his hand use, very quick, very active, punches, locks on, no hesitation in adjusting and re-engaging as the hand-fight progresses and the defensive player tries to use his hands to get better leverage. Just like any offensive lineman, if a defensive lineman gets a special jump off the snap and gets a jump on engagement, he can definitely be beat in his run blocking. Randy Starks taught him a lesson on that on one play. But otherwise he showed that he can actually create some movement against a guy like Randy Starks straight ahead power blocking. The problem is, against a guy like Starks, in straight ahead power blocking, it's not going to last. He has to get over-extended and into bad leverage in order to create movement and then that leaves him open to counter moves by Starks who was able to shed pretty well to make plays on the ball.

Zone protection he's got his head on a swivel, awareness is good, really active in looking for work, good lateral movement. Takes on blitzing guards really well. In fact ironically (given what I'm about to say below), he's really impressively good in overload situations where there are multiple guys trying to swing through his zone.

The real downside to his game is straight up pass protection. You get into a passing situation and you've got a specialist rushing over guard, Steinbach's quarterback (Delhomme in this game) was essentially on an egg timer. He was surprisingly OK against Paul Soliai, but then Paul Soliai has a tendency in his pass rush to stop using his feet and arms after about three steps. If he were good at keeping his momentum and pass rush going, he'd be Haloti Ngata. Alas, he's notta. The real issue is with guys like Randy Starks, but not even just him because he also experienced trouble against Phil effing Merling in this game. Guys that are active, move their feet, good strength, keep up their pass rush...Steinbach was on skates way too often.

I wonder how his back felt in 2010. I wonder if it was already a problem. I say that because core flexibility and knee bend seemed to be an issue in his game. I realize he's 6'6" and so getting his pads underneath players has probably been a challenge for him his whole career, but I did a quick reference to a 2009 game of his and I just thought in 2009 I saw a player that had better knee bend, flexibility, more willingness to get his back moving and get his pads down, etc.

Overall, to me he's kind of similar to Jake Scott. It's no wonder they flirted with both men and kind of set up a decision to grab one or the other. They're both lighter, athletic guys that have trouble anchoring against under tackles in pass rush (no matter what the PFF rating of Jake Scott's pass pro says), they both get out into space and to the linebacker level really well, yet have some issues with straight ahead DL run blocking, reach blocks and cut-offs, power and iso blocks, etc.
 
ckparrothead said:
I've just got done watching a game that I'm quite sure the Dolphins watched in their evaluation of Eric Steinbach, and that is the 2010 game between the Cleveland Browns and Miami Dolphins. Yes, somehow, Jake Delhomme and the Browns beat us that day. SMH.

This is just one game. Just one game, so keep that in mind. You need a lot more than this to come up with a proper evaluation.

But overall, I have to say he's not as bad as I was expecting. He clearly moves well, which is a big deal in this system. He gets out and runs with speed and burst. He's pretty balanced. His hands are quick. He understands angles and plays really well when it comes to pulling and screens. He executes well. He cuts his angles tight on pulls and wastes no time making solid contact in the hole, and he neutralized our linebackers when he did that. He pretty much had Dobbins and Dansby in this game when he was asked to pull. But he also had them pretty good when he released on zone plays, and I thought he did a good job there. He owned Tim Dobbins in that game. My one nitpick on pulling is sometimes on collision he just drops his hands after the initial push and so a guy like Dansby who has some mass to him, if he didn't get moved by that initial hit, he can still look for the ball and try get to it.

Back to his hand use, very quick, very active, punches, locks on, no hesitation in adjusting and re-engaging as the hand-fight progresses and the defensive player tries to use his hands to get better leverage. Just like any offensive lineman, if a defensive lineman gets a special jump off the snap and gets a jump on engagement, he can definitely be beat in his run blocking. Randy Starks taught him a lesson on that on one play. But otherwise he showed that he can actually create some movement against a guy like Randy Starks straight ahead power blocking. The problem is, against a guy like Starks, in straight ahead power blocking, it's not going to last. He has to get over-extended and into bad leverage in order to create movement and then that leaves him open to counter moves by Starks who was able to shed pretty well to make plays on the ball.

Zone protection he's got his head on a swivel, awareness is good, really active in looking for work, good lateral movement. Takes on blitzing guards really well. In fact ironically (given what I'm about to say below), he's really impressively good in overload situations where there are multiple guys trying to swing through his zone.

The real downside to his game is straight up pass protection. You get into a passing situation and you've got a specialist rushing over guard, Steinbach's quarterback (Delhomme in this game) was essentially on an egg timer. He was surprisingly OK against Paul Soliai, but then Paul Soliai has a tendency in his pass rush to stop using his feet and arms after about three steps. If he were good at keeping his momentum and pass rush going, he'd be Haloti Ngata. Alas, he's notta. The real issue is with guys like Randy Starks, but not even just him because he also experienced trouble against Phil effing Merling in this game. Guys that are active, move their feet, good strength, keep up their pass rush...Steinbach was on skates way too often.

I wonder how his back felt in 2010. I wonder if it was already a problem. I say that because core flexibility and knee bend seemed to be an issue in his game. I realize he's 6'6" and so getting his pads underneath players has probably been a challenge for him his whole career, but I did a quick reference to a 2009 game of his and I just thought in 2009 I saw a player that had better knee bend, flexibility, more willingness to get his back moving and get his pads down, etc.

Overall, to me he's kind of similar to Jake Scott. It's no wonder they flirted with both men and kind of set up a decision to grab one or the other. They're both lighter, athletic guys that have trouble anchoring against under tackles in pass rush (no matter what the PFF rating of Jake Scott's pass pro says), they both get out into space and to the linebacker level really well, yet have some issues with straight ahead DL run blocking, reach blocks and cut-offs, power and iso blocks, etc.
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it's a damn shame. early in his career, Steinbach was basically a mirror in pass pro. he even played some LT for Cincinnati if i recall correctly.
 
j0hnny63 said:
Steinbach is awful. Questionable signing.
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Why? He's older but if he's healthy, then he will be a good addition. Earlier in his career, he was one of the best guards in the league, and lots of OLers play into their mid thirties.
 
Wasn't this guy considered one of the better guards in the league at one point? I guess injuries really do wash that all away
 
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