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ESPN - Jonathan Martin wants to play again, but not in Miami.

I am so tired of what Jonathan Martin wants.

Exactly. Don't bully me, don't play pranks on me, don't call me names, pay me lots in a lawsuit, give me back my job. Enough already.

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Indianapolis has already given up its first- and fourth-round picks next year in trades.

San Francisco will be our best trade partner on Martin. The Niners have extra picks in the second and third rounds, will probably pick up a compensatory fourth for Dashon Goldson, and have a bunch of sevenths.
 
Indianapolis has already given up its first- and fourth-round picks next year in trades.

San Francisco will be our best trade partner on Martin. The Niners have extra picks in the second and third rounds, will probably pick up a compensatory fourth for Dashon Goldson, and have a bunch of sevenths.

Martin would be the weakest link on that OLINE, IMO. Those guys are earth movers, Martin isn't. Period.
 
If Harbaugh wanted him that is EXACTLY what he would be doing...

saying NOTHING.

They might already have spoken and already have a plan for all anyone knows.
 
I don't recall Jim saying squat and the silence is deafening.

He was asked about it and did comment. He said Jonathan was a good player, etc.

But just watch the video clip of it, if you can find it. Tell me Harbaugh looks comfortable talking about it.
 
I don't recall Jim saying squat and the silence is deafening.


Jim didn't say anything actually. He declined to talk about Martin as a person and simply commented on Martin as a football player. Very interesting if you ask me.

I just can't see too many teams welcoming him in with his performance issues and breaking the code in the locker room.

It may be exposed and the league may try and dissuade players from having "codes". But I believe things like these die hard, and no matter how politically correct teams will try and make it, the players will say publicly the right things, but serve their own justice privately.
 
After the precociousness of his childhood wore off as he ate as if he had a tapeworm, wondering if mommy decided to force him to play football as a more gender-appropriate conditioning experience
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On a more serious note, it's hard for me to imagine any football player other than a Tebow type feeling comfortable doing what they do in a locker room, an owner believing that a marginal poorly rated OL is worth the risk cuz as the saying goes "if you don't learn from history you're bound to repeat it," or a coaching staff who know they'll be under the glare of the spotlight in keeping him happy. IMO it's just rhetoric anyway.
 
BRILLIANT IDEA: Let's give New England a second round pick for them to take Martin. With a clause that 1. They have to start him, and 2. They have to listen to his locker room needs, and shape the team according to what makes Joni feel loved.

New England would then be irreverent as a team for at least five years, lol.

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I'm sure this will be spun against the lockerroom again. How does anyone even know if the "teasing" that was done to Martin is even all that bad? And when I say bad, I'm speaking in terms of the NFL LR culture. For all we know, this guy literally can't handle himself at all. I'm still having a really tough time believing he is being harassed any worse than anyone else in the history of the NFL. And its ONLY the Dolphins lockerroom where it was this bad? I'm not buying it.

Again, its conceivable to me that he can't handle being in a lockerroom at all regardless of how heavy the teasing was.
 
It is hard for me to see any GM, coach, or owner wanting this guy in their locker room.

His representatives are literally holding the phins hostage right now. They are keeping the slow drip news cycle going to destroy careers and the team without publicly saying what they want.

Do they want money? Great. How much?

Do they simply want a pound of flesh? To what end?

Are they making some grand social play to change the culture of sport via litigation? Why?

No sane person would invite the potential for this into their locker room. He is stained. He has a scarlet letter on his jersey. Regardless of how this ends and what the final narrative becomes, he is toxic.

The only play for him would be by someone who wants social change in the NFL and wants to feminize an alpha male dominated sport. No owner, no GM, no coach would do that. You win with strong minded winners. You do not win with wishy washy litigating prep schoolers.
 
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