Everyone assumes QB, not Barkley?

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  1. RedWhiteNBlue

    RedWhiteNBlue Well-Known Member

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    Getting a little tired of the QB speculation and us moving up for one. The only pure generational stud in this draft is Barkley and I would much rather grab him then any of these quarterbacks. Other then injury concernes with Thill he's is better then anything right now and probably through 2019 then what is in the draft. Besides that why not just go after someone like Bridgewater cheap or for a later draft pick? Get Barkley at RB, get Gesicki at TE and get a lineman. Personally I feel Sam Young is fine at RT, bye bye James due 9 million. Trade him for anything or totally rework his contract. Like to see a Dcoord that doesn't suck also. I don't blame the personal on D looks like coaching to me. For God's sake don't cut Sue we would be a laughing stock in the run game.
     
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    You'd need the number one pick to guarantee Barkley.
     
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    Don't think we have the firepower to get Barkley as he's going to go one or two in my opinion
     
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    I love Bark.

    It’d take a LOT of capital to move up and grab him, which we really don’t have. I don’t envision Saquon lasting past the first 1-4 picks. That would be amazing if he did.

    Also, I’m all aboard the Gesicki express. If there’s one player in this draft that would have me jumping up for joy (also based on need) in a Dolphins uniform, it’s him.
     
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    kingfin23 This is the Year

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    Dude, We would need #1 pick for him. Giants will take him #2 but Cleveland can possibly get him#1. To move up 11 to 1 would cost us . #11 this year , 2nd round this year, Then our #1 next year and 3rd rounder next year. Not going to happen.
     
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    Barkley at worst is not getting past the 4th pick.
     
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    I think the term "Generational" is thrown around way too loosely nowadays. You can't have a generational talent each and every year, yet here we are doing just that. Elliot was generational, gurley was generational, fournette was generational.

    Best RB in this year's draft? Undoubtedly. Generational? No.

    He is a RB, you dont build a team around your RB in today's NFL. You build one around a QB.
     
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    I think as a prospect, you can definitely consider him generational. He put up the numbers in college and his combine was freakishly good, like top 3 all time for a RB. He literally blew me away at his size and what he was able to do.

    You certainly don’t value him over a QB if you do not have one already . . . But there have been recent instances where a RB has had a major impact on a team’s success, even moreso than the QB.
     
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    And you could be right. Maybe this dude is the Next Eric Dickerson or Barry Sanders. Maybe he could be THAT guy. I'm usually a big advocate of outside the box thinking, and even pride myself on being able to do that very well.

    I just think that today's NFL doesnt value the RB the way it used to and taking one early like that is like taking Ronnie Brown over Aaron Rodgers. (And I LOVED Ronnie Brown, but he wasnt the right move.)

    Time will tell I guess.

    If we somehow landed Barkley I wouldnt lose a whole lot of sleep, hell, I might even be excited. But I'm gonna be watching the other guys we passed on for damn sure and I'd probably be second guessing that pick for years, unless the guy was pure ****ing magic for us.
     
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    We have Thill and that is not a weekness, it's a strength. All I'm saying is Barkley would be a much better addition then any QB in this draft and we should try to get him.
     
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    Running backs aren't the type of players you trade up significantly for. *flashback to the Ricky Williams draft fiasco*

    He's great, but I'm not sure if he's the generational talent everyone is speculating. IMO I liked Gurley as a prospect more than I do Barkley, and Gurley was selected around pick 10. He was injured, and that obviously had something to do with it, but QB is one of the only scenarios to trade up.
     
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    I think that today's NFL mindset in regards to RB's has morphed into both a running and receiving threat, rather than >90% running and <10% receiving in years past. With a RB that can add to the passing game, it frees up a whole lot of the playbook to make defenses play the Dolphins more honest than they do now. Barkley is a stud, no denying that, but I would be a little skittish about trading up for him and giving up other opportunities to fill out the roster.
     
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    I'd trade up whatever it takes to get Barkley. If you're double downing on Ryan Tannehill, surround him with a game changer on offense that'll make his life easier. Tired of drafting 1st rounders who don't have immediate impacts on the field. Barkley is a remarkable talent.

    The Dolphins have been poor on offense for the greater portion of this decade. Enough.
     
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    Gase and the FO apparently like Guice quite a bit.
    I actually think he has better vision than Barkley.
    If they don’t go QB, wouldn’t surprise me to see them draft Guice
     
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    The Barkley train get on it.
    Brown's signed Hyde and have Duke already. The will grab Chubb and a QB at 1 and 4.
    Giants still a threat. OL. They could suprise and go qb They saw whats behind Manning.
    Colts OL or edge rusher
    Denver QB
    Jets QB
    Tampa DB Fitz 100% if he's there. DB Secondaries a disaster.
    Chicago LB or OL in that order, huge on Edmunds
    San Fran Derwin James, DB, LB, now OL.
    Raiders picked up Doug Martin because Gruden loves him and they have Lynch.
    Dolphins Barkley then I start my Gesicki drum beat.
     
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    Yeah Barkley is gone in top 5 and I didn't want Mayfield then got excited about all the talk and hype of getting Mayfield and now im back to getting the team more picks by trading back a little in the first round. Grabbing Mason Rudolph who is grounded in his maturity and can stay outta trouble in south florida pick up an extra 3rd or 4th rd pick and acquire some depth at RB there.
     
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    Yup. That's how the generation of offenses is evolving. You don't wanna have to sub between two different types of backs consistently. Having interchangeable running back depth that can catch/run gives the defense fits. Just look in New Orleans and our situation w/ drake once Ajayi left

    It's just what works anymore unless you play like Jacksonville, heavy running game and pass game comes primarily off play action
     
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    Am I the only one not smitten with SB?

    I mean he is a specimen and all that but all the praise he is getting makes him better than Emmitt, Barry and OJ put together.

    Let's get real, he has piss poor after contact yards for a big guy.
     
  19. RedWhiteNBlue

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    Not sure where you got your incorrect info.

    • One of the best receiving backs in the nation, gained 1.9 yards per route
    run, led all FBS RBs with at least 40 targets.
    • A threat to take it to the house on any carry, ranked fifth among all FBS
    RBs with a breakaway percentage of 56.8.
    • Broke 35 tackles on 200 carries in 2017.
    • Averaged 3.4 yards per carry after contact.
    • Had an elusive rating of 65.6, good for 26th in the nation in 2017. Elusive
    rating declined each of the past two seasons.
    • Pass protection has not been stellar, allowed at least eight total pressures
    in each of the last three seasons.
    • Naturally gifted ball carrier with spectacular skills, his only negative is a
    natural desire to want to make the big play every carry.
     
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    Here is some incorrect info from NFL..

    WEAKNESSES
    More elusive than he is powerful. Has modest broken tackle numbers during his career at Penn State. Plays with inconsistent leg drive through contact when working between the tackles. Will need to develop a more north/south mindset as a pro. Doesn't always trust his run crease and will look to find side doors to bounce out of. Gets too cute with stutter-steps and jukes on first level allowing help to flow to the ball. Needs a little earlier commitment on stretch plays and sweeps rather than going through extended probing. Has bouts with focus drops as pass catcher and his catch radius is limited. Inconsistent at take-on blocks in pass protection.
     
  21. RedWhiteNBlue

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    I'll go with PFF all day.
     

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