Execute on P. Rivers

[Outrider01]

Nobody liked Marinos mechanics either, yet he was awesome. And why would the Miami scouts think that he will never make it in the NFL but San Diego's would? Did you actaully watch any of his games from NC State? Ya know, its not always about having the perfect physical specimen with the perfect mechanics, football is just as much about the intangibles as the tangibles... I think you are absolutely dead wrong... I hope when Rivers proves you wrong that you are man enough to come back and admit that you didn't know what the frack you were talking about.

I watched almost all of his games at NC state, and he broke records with a sloppy throwing motion in a weak ACC, save Florida State.
The comparison to Marino is invalid because well I wasn't alive to see Marino play in college, and there are a million examples of college QB's with poor mechanics that did never make good pro QB's. Comparing River's potential to Marino's is ludacris unless your also compare River's potential to the thousands of other great college QB's that have come out and flopped.

Hey, the kid might turn out good, and he might prove me wrong. But IMO he won't be any good. Most of the reason I'm even arguing this point is due to the fact that I would not gamble that much money on that particular player. I would prefer the Dolphins seek a guy with some experience, or simply draft their own QB.
This thread is about aquiring Phillip Rivers, and IMO it would be a poor decision for the Dolphins to make.

 

[LOCAL SCUM!]

They're not gonna trade anybody. THey'll play out this year with Drew BRees and P. Rivers learning behind him. IF Brees doesn't have another great year, (which this year was his first good year) then next year look for a deal.

 

[hunter5nc1]

Rivers would be fine and dandy except for one little nagging fact. He will never be a succesfull NFL QB. He's not a franchise QB of the future. His draft position is NO reflection of his ability. His mechanics are terrible.

Just because a QB gets drafted in the top 5, doesn't mean he will be a superstar. Even if the opporunity arose to trade for Rivers, I'm confident Saban and the Miami scouts would do their homework enough to recognize that this guy will never make it in the NFL. Mark my words, Rivers will never be a great NFL QB.

THEY SAID THE SAME THING ABOUT DAN MARINO **** NUTS! :shakeno: :eek: People please stop with the mechanics ****!! :D

 

[PhiNomina]

But Marino had an incredibly fast release and was tall enough to atleast see over his line.

Phillip Rivers may end up being a decent QB. But I don't think it is worst paying his trade price AND his top 4 salary to find out.

 

[Penthos]

But Marino had an incredibly fast release and was tall enough to atleast see over his line.

Phillip Rivers may end up being a decent QB. But I don't think it is worst paying his trade price AND his top 4 salary to find out.

Phillip Rivers is 6'5"... What's your point?

 

[Motion]

I think we have a golden opportunity with the situation that's developing in San Diego. They have a first round pick backing up a young pro bowler. I'm sure the Chargers are open to trading one of them. The reason I say Rivers is because Drew Brees is establishing himself as one of the top QBs in the league and I think the Chargers would be willing to trade a player who has never started a game for them and who is unproven over a top 5 QB. You might ask "why would we add an unproven QB to our roster?" Who is proven on our roster? Atleast this QB has potential and youth, two things we don't have at his position.

Brees is nothing more than a one hit wonder at this point. Lets see some consistency before we give him a "top 5 in the league" title. :shakeno:

 

[Motion]

All you Berlin lovers need to remember he's been playing against 4th stringers. He's not our answer.

 

[@@@]

Why would we consider bringing in a player who has proven nothing whatsoever in the nfl? We would be asking for another AJ debacle, not that rivers is going anywhere, its brees that will be let go at some point, and he's a risk, he's undersized and of the 3 seasons he's started he's throw 15 picks twice (in a feely like 11 games one year!) with the best running back in the league in his backfield and to date has still only had 1 good year, lets see if he can sustain it before he's even considered an option. History shows good qb's are almost never released or traded (for obvious reasons) if we do need a new qb then we will draft 1 and allow him to develop under this years starter

 

[Mile High Fin]

Brees will be a Free Agent next year and the Chargers wont be able to re-sign him. So we will have to bid for him

:yeahthat:


Also, I remember reading that Brees said a couple months ago that either he or Rivers would no longer be a Charger by next year.

They will NOT be traded this year, but next year, one of them is gone.....probably Brees as a FA.

 

[Demented Dolfan]

I have heard enough about Brock Berlin. The second we signed him as an undrafted free agent I knew this would happen. Once he looked decent against a junkyard defense people would be crying for him to start. Lets give him the start in a preseason game, if he looks decent then you can talk about him starting all you want. As of now, he is still a practice squad quarterback at best

Agreed Give Him a start to see how he does. Never followed him in collage. But in that first game with the exception of the common rookie mistake of throwing low and short into endzone and getting intercepted, he looked quick, seemed in control and has a nice quick release. Needs to not lock on to a reciever as much as well, but I was real suprised by him.

 

[yankeehillbilly]

I dont think the Chargers could take the cap hit it would take to trade for Rivers. It would just kill there cap next year. If they trade a QB Brees would be easier to trade because of the hit.

it would kill their cap this year....they would be fine next year.
In the event that a player is traded, ALL that player's remaining uncharged bonus money is accelerated immediately in the current year's cap. The June 1st rule does not apply to a player that is traded, only to players that are released.

Brees was franchised, so his contract is for 1year at $8.08 million. We would assume that contract if we did indeed trade for Brees. Unless Brees immediately restructured, we wouldn't have the cap room for such a deal.

 

[Megatron]

I don't see anything happening there until next year at the earliest. Why trade him when he's your insurance policy on a Superbowl run this year? They have plenty of cap space too, no problem there.

 

[Dphins4me]

I dont think the Chargers could take the cap hit it would take to trade for Rivers. It would just kill there cap next year. If they trade a QB Brees would be easier to trade because of the hit.

If they trade Rivers then all the cap hit comes this year, not next.

If they trade Bress it would actually free up about 10 to 11 million since its all salary this year.