Fanspeak On the Clock Mock Draft Simulator

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    15: R1P15

    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME
    47: R2P15

    C MASON COLE
    MICHIGAN
    79: R3P15

    RB NICK CHUBB
    GEORGIA
    117: R4P15

    CB ISAIAH OLIVER
    COLORADO
    130: R4P28

    QB LUKE FALK
    WASHINGTON STATE
    194: R6P15

    LB KENNY YOUNG
    UCLA
    226: R7P4

    LB KHALIL HODGES
    BUFFALO
    237: R7P15

    LB PETER KALAMBAYI
    STANFORD

    https://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/
     
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    If we do pick like that..OL, OL, RB in the first 3 rds, then one my 4ths is gonna be a TE before a CB, but that's just me.
     
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    I thought about TE there, didn't see one that I liked all that much. I would have liked to draft Eric Saubert in the 5th rd of the 2017 draft, could have been a good fit. Instead we traded up 2 spots for Asiata, gave up a 6th rd pick, I hope it works out.
     
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    15: R1P15
    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME

    47: R2P15
    G BILLY PRICE
    OHIO STATE

    79: R3P15
    CB HOLTON HILL
    TEXAS

    117: R4P15
    CB QUENTON MEEKS
    STANFORD

    130: R4P28
    QB LUKE FALK
    WASHINGTON STATE

    194: R6P15
    LB TEGRAY SCALES
    INDIANA

    226: R7P4
    LB KHALIL HODGES
    BUFFALO

    237: R7P15
    CB CHRIS JONES
    NEBRASKA
     
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    I like the 2nd version much better than the 1st.
     
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    The cookie crumbled better.
     
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    15: R1P15

    OT MIKE MCGLINCHEY
    NOTRE DAME
    47: R2P15

    CB KEN WEBSTER
    MISSISSIPPI
    79: R3P15

    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP
    117: R4P15

    LB AZEEM VICTOR
    WASHINGTON
    131: R4P29

    CB CARLTON DAVIS
    AUBURN
    194: R6P15

    LB TEGRAY SCALES
    INDIANA
    231: R7P9

    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA
    237: R7P15

    C SEAN WALSH
    IOWA
     
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    15: R1P15
    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME

    47: R2P15
    WR CALVIN RIDLEY
    ALABAMA

    79: R3P15
    CB HOLTON HILL
    TEXAS

    117: R4P15
    RB BO SCARBROUGH
    ALABAMA

    131: R4P29
    G BRADEN SMITH
    AUBURN

    194: R6P15
    C COLEMAN SHELTON
    WASHINGTON

    231: R7P9
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    237: R7P15
    G CODY O'CONNELL
    WASHINGTON STATE
     
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    15: R1P15
    EDGE ARDEN KEY
    LSU

    47: R2P15
    QB JOSH ALLEN
    WYOMING

    79: R3P15
    C FRANK RAGNOW
    ARKANSAS

    117: R4P15
    RB BO SCARBROUGH
    ALABAMA

    131: R4P29
    CB QUENTON MEEKS
    STANFORD

    194: R6P15
    QB QUINTON FLOWERS
    SOUTH FLORIDA

    231: R7P9
    G CODY O'CONNELL
    WASHINGTON STATE

    237: R7P15
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA
     
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    15: R1P15
    OT MIKE MCGLINCHEY
    NOTRE DAME

    47: R2P15
    CB LEVI WALLACE
    ALABAMA

    79: R3P15
    C FRANK RAGNOW
    ARKANSAS

    117: R4P15
    TE ADAM BRENEMAN
    MASSACHUSETTS

    131: R4P29
    G BRADEN SMITH
    AUBURN

    194: R6P15
    RB JAYLEN SAMUELS
    NORTH CAROLINA STATE

    231: R7P9
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    237: R7P15
    G CODY O'CONNELL
    WASHINGTON STATE
     
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    That site is addicting isn't it
     
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    15: R1P15
    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME

    47: R2P15
    WR CALVIN RIDLEY
    ALABAMA

    79: R3P15
    CB HOLTON HILL
    TEXAS

    117: R4P15
    QB JOSH ALLEN
    WYOMING

    131: R4P29
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    194: R6P15
    LB TEGRAY SCALES
    INDIANA

    231: R7P9
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    237: R7P15
    CB CHRIS JONES
    NEBRASKA
     
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    15: R1P15
    CB TARVARUS MCFADDEN
    FLORIDA STATE
    47: R2P15
    DE BRADLEY CHUBB
    NC STATE
    79: R3P15
    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP
    117: R4P15
    C MICHAEL DEITER
    WISCONSIN
    131: R4P29
    RB MYLES GASKIN
    WASHINGTON
    194: R6P15
    LB REGGIE CARTER
    GEORGIA
    231: R7P9
    G CODY O'CONNELL
    WASHINGTON ST
    237: R7P15
    S CHRIS HAWKINS
    USC
     
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    Rather than posting the same-looking ALL CAPS FANSPEAK LIST as everyone else, I'll just post some guys I seem to tend to end up targeting in certain rounds...going off NFL Draft Scout rankings (which are the most realistic you can use).

    Some guys I list more than once because their NFL Draft Scout ranking is a bit too low and I start considering them a little bit higher than where the Fanspeak engines project them going.

    Round 1: TE Mark Andrews (Oklahoma), OT Mike McGlinchey (Notre Dame), OT Orlando Brown (Oklahoma), DT Vita Vea (Washington), DT Maurice Hurst (Michigan), DE Bradley Chubb (NC State), DE Harold Landry (Boston College), DE Clelin Ferrell (Clemson), CB Tarvarus McFadden (Florida State), S Ronnie Harrison (Alabama)

    Round 2: QB Baker Mayfield (Oklahoma), TE Mark Andrews (Oklahoma), TE Dallas Goedert (South Dakota State), OG Will Hernandez (UTEP), OC Billy Price (Ohio State), LB Rashaan Evans (Alabama), CB Jaire Alexander (Louisville), S Ronnie Harrison (Alabama)

    Round 3: QB Baker Mayfield (Oklahoma), RB Sony Michel (Georgia), RB Jaylen Samuels (NC State), RB Royce Freeman (Oregon), WR Simmie Cobbs (Indiana), WR Allen Lazard (Iowa State), WR Anthony Miller (Memphis), TE Mike Gesicki (Penn State), TE Ian Thomas (Indiana), OC Frank Ragnow (Arkansas), DE Marcus Davenport (UTSA), DE Dorance Armstrong (Kansas), LB Keishawn Bierria (Washington), LB Josey Jewell (Iowa), CB Holton Hill (Texas)

    Round 4: QB Riley Ferguson, RB Sony Michel (Georgia), RB Jaylen Samuels (NC State), RB Royce Freeman (Oregon), WR Jester Weah (Pittsburgh), TE Troy Fumagalli (Wisconsin), TE C.J. Conrad (Kentucky), TE Christopher Herndon (Miami), OT Joseph Noteboom (TCU), DE Marcus Davenport (UTSA), CB Deatrick Nichols (South Florida), CB Rashard Fant (Indiana), S Damon Webb (Ohio State)

    Round 5: (we don't have a pick)

    Round 6: QB Riley Ferguson, RB Quinton Flowers, RB Kalen Ballage, RB Rashad Penny, TE Christopher Herndon (Miami), TE Adam Breneman (UMass), OG Kyle Bosch (West Virginia), DT Dedrin Senat (South Florida), DE Justin Lawler (SMU), LB Tegray Scales (Indiana), LB Shaun Dion-Hamilton (Alabama), S Damon Webb (Ohio State)

    Round 7: QB Riley Ferguson, RB Quinton Flowers, RB Kalen Ballage, RB Rashad Penny, TE Adam Breneman (UMass), OG Kyle Bosch (West Virginia), DT Dedrin Senat (South Florida), DE Justin Lawler (SMU), LB Tegray Scales (Indiana), LB Shaun Dion-Hamilton (Alabama), S Damon Webb (Ohio State)

    A lot of this is just because I need to expand the number of players I've reviewed and gotten comfortable with. Some of the notable absences are just because strategically they don't make sense for Miami, or because we won't have a shot at them.
     
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    15: R1P15
    S DERWIN JAMES
    FLORIDA STATE

    47: R2P15
    CB LEVI WALLACE
    ALABAMA

    79: R3P15
    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP

    117: R4P15
    G BRADEN SMITH
    AUBURN

    131: R4P29
    CB QUENTON MEEKS
    STANFORD

    194: R6P15
    LB TEGRAY SCALES
    INDIANA

    231: R7P9
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    237: R7P15
    G ISAIAH WYNN
    GEORGIA
     
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    15: R1P15
    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME

    47: R2P15
    CB HOLTON HILL
    TEXAS

    79: R3P15
    C FRANK RAGNOW
    ARKANSAS

    117: R4P15
    G BRADEN SMITH
    AUBURN

    131: R4P29
    TE HAYDEN HURST
    SOUTH CAROLINA

    194: R6P15
    LB TEGRAY SCALES
    INDIANA

    231: R7P9
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    237: R7P15
    CB CHRIS JONES
    NEBRASKA
     
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    15: R1P15
    EDGE ARDEN KEY
    LSU

    47: R2P15
    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP

    79: R3P15
    CB HOLTON HILL
    TEXAS

    117: R4P15
    TE HAYDEN HURST
    SOUTH CAROLINA

    131: R4P29
    CB QUENTON MEEKS
    STANFORD

    194: R6P15
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    231: R7P9
    OT COLE MADISON
    WASHINGTON STATE

    237: R7P15
    LB KHALIL HODGES
    BUFFALO
     
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    15: R1P15
    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME

    47: R2P15
    CB HOLTON HILL
    TEXAS

    79: R3P15
    C FRANK RAGNOW
    ARKANSAS

    117: R4P15
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    131: R4P29
    G BRADEN SMITH
    AUBURN

    194: R6P15
    LB TEGRAY SCALES
    INDIANA

    231: R7P9
    G CODY O'CONNELL
    WASHINGTON STATE

    237: R7P15
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA
     
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    15: R1P15
    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME

    47: R2P15
    CB HOLTON HILL
    TEXAS

    79: R3P15
    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP

    117: R4P15
    RB BO SCARBROUGH
    ALABAMA

    131: R4P29
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    194: R6P15
    G BRADEN SMITH
    AUBURN

    231: R7P9
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    237: R7P15
    LB KHALIL HODGES
    BUFFALO
     
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    Hmm, my first of the season.....Figured I'd post one or two to see how it changes over the next few months. Ran it with NFL Draft Scout and Difficult. I'm not sure what the difference is between difficult and classic.

    15: R1P15
    QB LAMAR JACKSON
    LOUISVILLE

    47: R2P15
    TE MARK ANDREWS
    OKLAHOMA

    79: R3P15
    C MASON COLE
    MICHIGAN

    117: R4P15
    CB TONY BROWN
    ALABAMA

    131: R4P29
    LB CAMERON SMITH
    SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

    194: R6P15
    LB TEGRAY SCALES
    INDIANA

    231: R7P9
    S DCOTA DIXON
    WISCONSIN

    237: R7P15
    RB RASHAAD PENNY
    SAN DIEGO STATE
     
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    13: R1P13
    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME

    45: R2P13
    LB MALIK JEFFERSON
    TEXAS

    77: R3P13
    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP

    115: R4P13
    C FRANK RAGNOW
    ARKANSAS

    131: R4P29
    RB BO SCARBROUGH
    ALABAMA

    192: R6P13
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    235: R7P13
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    236: R7P14
    CB CHRIS JONES
    NEBRASKA
     
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    13: R1P13
    CB TARVARUS MCFADDEN
    FLORIDA STATE

    45: R2P13
    G BILLY PRICE
    OHIO STATE

    77: R3P13
    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP

    115: R4P13
    TE HAYDEN HURST
    SOUTH CAROLINA

    131: R4P29
    CB QUENTON MEEKS
    STANFORD

    192: R6P13
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    235: R7P13
    CB CHRIS JONES
    NEBRASKA

    236: R7P14
    LB PETER KALAMBAYI
    STANFORD
     
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    I like this one alot. I don't know how realistic it is, but I like it.
     
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    13: R1P13
    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME

    45: R2P13
    G BILLY PRICE
    OHIO STATE

    77: R3P13
    TE MIKE GESICKI
    PENN STATE

    115: R4P13
    C FRANK RAGNOW
    ARKANSAS

    131: R4P29
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    192: R6P13
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    235: R7P13
    LB TEGRAY SCALES
    INDIANA

    236: R7P14
    CB CHRIS JONES
    NEBRASKA
     
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    13: R1P13
    EDGE BRADLEY CHUBB
    NORTH CAROLINA STATE

    45: R2P13
    G BILLY PRICE
    OHIO STATE

    77: R3P13
    LB MALIK JEFFERSON
    TEXAS

    115: R4P13
    CB HOLTON HILL
    TEXAS

    131: R4P29
    TE HAYDEN HURST
    SOUTH CAROLINA

    192: R6P13
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    235: R7P13
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    236: R7P14
    G CODY O'CONNELL
    WASHINGTON STATE
     
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    13: R1P13
    OT MIKE MCGLINCHEY
    NOTRE DAME

    45: R2P13
    G BILLY PRICE
    OHIO STATE

    77: R3P13
    QB JOSH ALLEN
    WYOMING

    115: R4P13
    RB BO SCARBROUGH
    ALABAMA

    131: R4P29
    CB JORDAN THOMAS
    OKLAHOMA

    192: R6P13
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    235: R7P13
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    236: R7P14
    C ALEX OFFICER
    PITTSBURGH

    Time for James, Larsen and Bushrod to go on the OL. I'd probably have Price at OG to start and Officer backing up Pouncey- Officer is pretty stout at the OL and can move pretty well, 2nd level blocking, etc. Juius Thomas- see ya, I wanted to draft 2 TE's but the chips fell where they did. Josh Allen worth the 3rd rd gamble for a QB of the future, otherwise it would have been Holton Hill. Scarborough looks like a talented big back a notch below Derrick Henry, thunder and lightning combo with fellow 'Bama RB Kenyan Drake. Rashaan Evans- as long as he keeps getting rated so low in this simulator I'll keep taking him- domo arigato Fanspeak, I hope that the actual draft has Evans going this low so we can grab him but I seriously doubt it. Was Raekwon McMillan a better prospect that Rashaan Evans? Not so sure about that imo, Evans looks pretty darned good to me, physical LB and maybe quicker than McMillan. Would be a massive steal that low in the draft no matter how you cut it.
     
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    13: R1P13
    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME

    45: R2P13
    G BILLY PRICE
    OHIO STATE

    77: R3P13
    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP

    115: R4P13
    TE HAYDEN HURST
    SOUTH CAROLINA

    131: R4P29
    CB BRANDON FACYSON
    VIRGINIA TECH

    192: R6P13
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    235: R7P13
    CB CHRIS JONES
    NEBRASKA

    236: R7P14
    C ALEX OFFICER
    PITTSBURGH
     
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    A+/favorite so far. I would prefer you look up a RB like K. Johnson, J. Kelly, or R. Penny instead of two TE's, but I'd love those first four picks, and I think there's a good chance that none of the four are available where you selected them. Getting Evans that late would be sweet. No idea why he's available this late, though.
     
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    13: R1P13. EDGE HAROLD LANDRY
    BOSTON COLLEGE

    45: R2P13 G BILLY PRICE
    OHIO STATE

    77: R3P13 LB TREMAINE EDMUNDS
    VIRGINIA TECH

    115: R4P13 EDGE JOSH SWEAT
    FLORIDA STATE

    131: R4P29 RB RASHAAD PENNY
    SAN DIEGO STATE

    192: R6P13 QB RILEY FERGUSON
    MEMPHIS

    235: R7P13 CB SEAN CHANDLER
    TEMPLE

    236: R7P14 WR JONATHAN GILES
    TEXAS TECH
     
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    only did 4 rounds.

    10: R1P10 QB LAMAR JACKSON
    LOUISVILLE

    42: R2P10 DL DA'RON PAYNE
    ALABAMA

    74: R3P10 G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP

    112: R4P10 C FRANK RAGNOW
    ARKANSAS

    132: R4P30 QB CLAYTON THORSON
    NORTHWESTERN
     
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    10: R1P10
    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME

    42: R2P10
    LB MALIK JEFFERSON
    TEXAS

    74: R3P10
    CB HOLTON HILL
    TEXAS

    112: R4P10
    QB JOSH ALLEN
    WYOMING

    132: R4P30
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    189: R6P10
    G BRADEN SMITH
    AUBURN

    231: R7P9
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    232: R7P10
    C ALEX OFFICER
    PITTSBURGH
     
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    10: R1P10
    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME

    42: R2P10
    LB ROQUON SMITH
    GEORGIA

    74: R3P10
    CB HOLTON HILL
    TEXAS

    112: R4P10
    QB JOSH ALLEN
    WYOMING

    132: R4P30
    TE HAYDEN HURST
    SOUTH CAROLINA

    189: R6P10
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    231: R7P9
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    232: R7P10
    C ALEX OFFICER
    PITTSBURGH
     
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    10: R1P10
    WR COURTLAND SUTTON
    SMU

    42: R2P10
    G BILLY PRICE
    OHIO STATE

    74: R3P10
    CB JOSH JACKSON
    IOWA

    112: R4P10
    QB JOSH ALLEN
    WYOMING

    132: R4P30
    C FRANK RAGNOW
    ARKANSAS

    189: R6P10
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    231: R7P9
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    232: R7P10
    LB TEGRAY SCALES
    INDIANA
     
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    This draft is literally 4 1st Rd picks.
     
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    You are way too high on Lamar snoop. Lol
     
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    My dream draft so far

    10: R1P10
    EDGE BRADLEY CHUBB
    NORTH CAROLINA STATE

    42: R2P10
    C MASON COLE
    MICHIGAN

    74: R3P10
    TE TROY FUMAGALLI
    WISCONSIN

    112: R4P10
    CB QUENTON MEEKS
    STANFORD

    132: R4P30
    RB KERRYON JOHNSON
    AUBURN

    189: R6P10
    WR BRAXTON BERRIOS
    MIAMI

    231: R7P9
    QB RILEY FERGUSON
    MEMPHIS

    232: R7P10
    G BRIAN ALLEN
    MICHIGAN STATE
     
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    I'm not crazy about this draft but the name of the game is adding talent, that and banning Mike Tannenbaum from making any more trades. My preference would not be to add a WR or DL in the 1st round, but the two talents that stood out were Sutton and Christian Wilkins. And yeah if Quenton Nelson were available I would have taken him.

    A question in general regarding the draft: The Steelers took David DeCastro 24th overall in 2012- was he a reach because he's an OG? I'd take him all day long, there or higher, the 1st round always seems to be regarded as too high to draft an interior OL until we're getting knocked around like rag dolls for yet another season. Combine talent available at interior OL with a definite need and I'll draft them all day long in the 1st round. I heard the same logic a decade ago regarding RT vs LT as per spending 1st round picks. If we need a Guard draft a Guard- Nelson, Price (OG/OC), Hernandez, whatever works- fix the problem. Draft Officer in the 7th as a backup Center, that's fine, too, or maybe Isiah Wynn as a short yet capable Guard or even back up LT, the kid can play. Just get it done, fix the problem, I'd love to get Quenton Nelson in the 1st round and bury one of the Guard issues that plagues us year after year.
     
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    I did these with different settings, and, as you can see on the last three, it was hard for me to justify taking any of the available players over Sutton at 10. I don't like going WR that early, but he's the kind of talent that dictates coverage. I have said it many times, but I don't draft a WR in the top 10 unless he's a rare talent. I didn't have top-10 grades on Corey Davis, Mike Williams, or John Ross. Sutton is that rare talent, and I have a top-10 grade on him.

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    Am I missing something or is Rashaan Evans ranked ridiculously low by Fanspeak? I'd be happy to get him in the 2nd or 3rd rounds and they have him ranked I think 266 overall, imo that's crazy. I like his size, physical play, quick feet, production. Holton Hill jumps out, too, with that size and speed but he's got some suddenness/explosion to him as well, just reeks of talent- I hope that he no longer reeks of weed. It might be a bit much to throw out the name Mike Haynes, but I do remember what Troy Vincent looked like as a rookie, and Hill has that same thoroughbred look to him. Quite the talent.
     
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