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Farmer out as GM candidate

jason_taylor said:
I Mean i cant recall not having atleast one starter out of our whole draft before ..
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Really? It happened several times during the wannspiel era. And truthfully, the lack of playtime in this past draft had more to do with injuries and coach stubbornness than anything else. Jordan would have been starting on other teams. I think this past draft will pan out much better than you think right now
 
SkapePhin said:
Really? It happened several times during the wannspiel era. And truthfully, the lack of playtime in this past draft had more to do with injuries and coach stubbornness than anything else. Jordan would have been starting on other teams. I think this past draft will pan out much better than you think right now
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Yeah i dont think that what Ireland drafted will become busts BUT , when you draft a player as high as Jordan was drafted , they need to come in and make an immediate impact , imo anybody who gets drafted in the top 10 , should come in and be a pretty good player there first year . but i still think Jordan and the 2 CBs we picked in the 2nd rd will still come in and contribute in there 2nd or 3rd year , more likely this coming year ...
 
Why was Ray Farmer telling people close to him just 2 days ago that he was going to take the job?

What happened? I kind of want to know.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Why was Ray Farmer telling people close to him just 2 days ago that he was going to take the job?

What happened? I kind of want to know.
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Im not sure not unless the Brownies convinced him that he just might be getting in over his head , which i wouldnt think so ...
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Why was Ray Farmer telling people close to him just 2 days ago that he was going to take the job?

What happened? I kind of want to know.
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The whole Farmer thing was a clustereff.

Knowing he had such hand with Miami, he opted for one last power play with the help of his unnofficial media spokesman the FPA(Wooten). Some sort of assurance(perhaps this was the ability to let go Aponte or Philbin).

Under the guise of clarification he sent this negotiation over.

Unfortunately for him the whole thing blew up in his face when the narrative started to spin out of control, and when the FPA publicly did not back him by advising him to interview he was left with no choice.
He couldn't interview at that point because he had probably soiled himself with Miami. I doubt they would have given him the job which would have made him look really bad.
So he calls off the negotiation so he can save face and make Miami look like the bad guy. It is also possible that he used this for some concessions from Cleveland as well.
 
You guys want Jeff Ireland, and then you don't want him, look at that last statement--- when Jeff gets his next Gm job and how well he does and we left with an atrocity? aren't you one of those guys that didn't support him when he was here?
 
trojanma said:
The whole Farmer thing was a clustereff.

Knowing he had such hand with Miami, he opted for one last power play with the help of his unnofficial media spokesman the FPA(Wooten). Some sort of assurance(perhaps this was the ability to let go Aponte or Philbin).

Under the guise of clarification he sent this negotiation over.

Unfortunately for him the whole thing blew up in his face when the narrative started to spin out of control, and when the FPA publicly did not back him by advising him to interview he was left with no choice.
He couldn't interview at that point because he had probably soiled himself with Miami. I doubt they would have given him the job which would have made him look really bad.
So he calls off the negotiation so he can save face and make Miami look like the bad guy. It is also possible that he used this for some concessions from Cleveland as well.
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A powerplay? If so, I really think that was a pretty lame move since Ross has made it clear he wants collaboration at the top and not one guy running the show. The other move Farmer did was open his mouth to the press. That was really unprofessional for a future executive. It's best to keep matters private between you and the party that may or may not hire you. It may hurt his chances with another team down the road.

As for Ross, in addition to his org structure, dragging his feet really hurt us. It gave the usual suspects time to stir the pot.
 
I think whoever our new GM is (unless it's Gaine, perhaps who might have suggested Ireland draft Jordan, for all we know) will know better than to draft injured players who, surprise surprise, miss the whole season (or are terribly ineffective). What Ireland did was terribly idiotic, and he did terribly idiotic things year after year.

EVERYONE with a brain knew we should've taken Earl Thomas a couple of years back. Instead, we got two mediocre players. Neither Misi or Odrick are difference makers. If Odrick was a difference maker instead of just a 'body', we wouldn't be sweating the Solai/Starks situation.

These are the questions we need answered by GM candidates. Can we find someone who can identify talent and knows better than to just draft 'bodies'.
 
Ray Farmer passed up the Dolphins GM job because Cleveland Browns are poised to "redefine the history books''

"I think Cleveland is primed and I think we're in a position to redefine the history books,'' Farmer told cleveland.com. "I think change is on the horizon and I didn't want to miss what's going to happen in Cleveland.''

Farmer, 39, was a finalist for the Dolphins GM job which ultimately went to former Bucs director of player personnel Dennis Hickey. The Dolphins wanted Farmer to interview a second time, and if he did, he likely would've gotten the job. The Miami Herald identified Farmer early on as the frontrunner for the job.

"I didn't finish the process,'' said Farmer. "I assume they would've given me the job. That's the way it was articulated to me. If I took the job, I would've reported directly to (Dolphins owner) Stephen Ross and it was a tremendous opportunity. It still is a dream of mine to become a general manager and run my own program and put together my own team, but it wasn't the right time for me.

"I knew what I had here. I know what I think is going to happen here, and I know what we have in place. So to that degree, the known is better than the unknown.''

"No, he turned down the job primarily because he's extremely happy here and he's extremely optimistic and he enjoys the people he's working with,'' said Banner. "He'd have to find exactly the right situation because he'd be leaving something that he's very, very happy with.''
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/ind...ph.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
 
In all fairness, how does he sound dumb as rocks? Nothing in the quote screamed to me, dumb***. Not saying he would make a good GM, just being fair.

Nublar7 said:
Maybe it is good we didn't hire Farmer. Sounds dumb as a rock.
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I think he got cold feet when Cesario got involved.
 
dolpns13 said:
In all fairness, how does he sound dumb as rocks? Nothing in the quote screamed to me, dumb***. Not saying he would make a good GM, just being fair.
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He said the Browns are primed and in a position to redefine the history books. He also says he loves Michael Lombardi and praises him. Either he is lying or not real bright, the Browns are still a joke and Lombardi might be the worst GM in the NFL.
 
I could care less about Ray Famer, Nick Caserio was the one that hurt.
 
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