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Feeley or Frerotte

nick1 said:
I take Fuerotte over Feeley just look at the stats

Fuerotte is 17 of 31 (55%) for 194 yards 1 TD 0 INT in two games
Feeley is 10 of 20 (50%) for 95 yards 0 TD 1 INT in two games

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Rosenfels is 13 of 21 (62%) for 114 yards 2 TD 0 INT in two games
Berlin is 15 of 21 (71%) for 191 yards 1 TD 1 INT in two games
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Sooner or later, Sage will be the number 2.
 
Phishstix said:
gus was going 1's vs 1's and got us on the board. feeley was going 2's/3's vs 2's/3's and didn't get past midfield. F stats, points are the problem, and feeley hasn't gotten us close to even field goal range this whole preseason. my tally goes gus-13, aj- 0, b/c getting your team in the endzone is the only thing that matters, i don't care how good aj can throw a 12 yard hitch if he move his offense into the redzone.
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Course you leave out some important facts, like if Dt makes teh catch against Chicago wea are 1st down well within scoring range. But hey lest overlook that. Or if minor and Dt could catch who knows......whats teh pointbiased people see things bias, so it is what they want to see.

I can see it now Frerrotte will be named starter, and all the "haters" will jump up and say "see I was right, I was right, dont you want to call me guru now?"

An unbiased opinion is one that says that both qbs havent looked stellar, the fact that Gus is in the third year in this system and he hasnt looked head and shoulders better is something of concern. Like Bedard said in his second to last blog about the Jax game, Frerrotte makes alot of bonehead decisions, some really bad passes. The fact that AJ hasnt got teh deer in headlights look worked out is the reason why I believe Gus should start. Poise under pressure is huge and AJ isnt quite there yet. I have seen improvement, but I also see teh pressure and frustration still lead him to throw dumb passes.

The point is Gus starts simply because he doesnt get flustered, which is a big factor. But I have to say, what I saw out of Gus against Jax doesnt give me teh warm and fuzzies. He made some really bad passes and should have had at least 2 passes picked from really bad passes. Now all qbs have bad passes, which I stated in one defense of AJ last year and it is true. Gus just has always seemed to have a ton in his stints as starter in teh past and I dont see a huge change in that in the last 2 games. WHich should tell you I am a little disappointed in AJs development thus far.

Oh and for those that say Sage has looked better than AJ, well your bias is showing again because you fail to mention he has looked better than Frerrotte as well. Like or not, he has. Of course the fact that he is playing against scrubs has nothing to do with it right?
 
If their even, you start Feeley, it's that simple.Why ? Simply because he's the younger player, and you have more invested, and if it's a tie, you try to make your investment grow and pay off eventually for you. If you see Feeley is'nt going to be the QB to lead the team, then Ferrotte takes over, but I think at that point, you have to decide to go looking for a new QB of the future for the Fins. Even if Ferrotte plays great after taking over, you still have to find a QB and start grooming him to take over and growing into the system and all.
 
I was at the game last night in Jax. From what I saw, Frerotte has better pocket presence the Feeley. Feeley had a lot of opportunities and couldn't move the team. Looks like Gus is going to be ther starter. I wouldn't be surprised if Sage moves up to number 2.
 
finsfan4life said:
It doesn't matter to me at all which one of these guys starts. It was clear from watching the game that the QB position IS going to be a weakness regardless of which one of these guys is playing. The only way we're going to be able to get anything out of the QB position is to have these guys throw short passes to Ricky (who looked great) Ronnie, and Randy. So, while some of you sit around and argue which QB should start, I'll sit back with the realization that neither one of these guys is going to look that good.
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Sigh....I know. If they both suck, I say start the young guy in hopes he has a breakthrough. Remember, Feeley has so little experience that there is the possibility of a lot of improvement. Especially since his weaknesses are things that could improve like, decision making, rads, getting rid of the ball sooner, not locking on to receivers. His arm is fine. Let him play...who knows? Unless Gus plays great, it's the most logical move.
 
vt_dolfan said:
No Gain..sorry guys..the Super Bowl aint in the cards for us this year. That being said...we gain nothing..nothing..nothing..by having Gus start at QB. Hes not the QB of the future.

No Risk...Feeley still could develop...because he has the physical tools...and age on his side. If he was as old as Gus....Id start Gus. Hes not. We risk really nothing by starting Feeley. If hes truly terrible after the first few games...fine...bench him.

The goal is to win the Super Bowl...and Gus Frerrote does not clearly give us that shot this year...and if he does not CLEARLY give us that shot. He sits. Period.
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OK, let me see if I got this straight. Your saying b/c AJ is a few years younger we should start AJ even if Gus is obviously better?? Well Brock is more than a few years younger than both of them, so lets give the starting job to him. Under your way of thinking that would seem the best answer, right?? Heck I have a nephew that is 5, lets put him in. :shakeno:
 
My god I left Espn boards because they were becoming overrun with self procalimed experts that put down anyone w/; a diff opinion while championing their opinion as fact. This board is becoming teh same.

Gus has better pocket awareness, yes and yes he should start if AJ doesnt pick it up. But honestly those that are saying that Gus has greatly outplayed AJ are fooling themselves, convincing themselves that he did when in fact their play isnt much diff. AJ had one int last nite going deep. Gus escaped 2 going deep. Yes almost doesnt count, but the bad decisions do. He did when he had time to throw. I love how many write Gus was impressive, yet how was he impressive? Overral not a play here or a play there, but overrall? AS SABAN said it is 60 minutes and you have to play all 60 minutes. Gus has made career of boneheaded decisions, 8+ years of them. Over 2 games, he showed penchent for still making dumb decisions. Now yes AJ has not shown any better, so it aint like I am extremely confident in him right now either. But is truly laughable how teh "haters" are playing up Gus performance simply because they dont want AJ. Right now I wish we would have jumped on Orton or Frye in the second or third.

I also love how AJ is magically supposed to be completely comfortable by now.

Carefull guys, your bias is showing.
 
rickeyrunsover said:
My god I left Espn boards because they were becoming overrun with self procalimed experts that put down anyone w/; a diff opinion while championing their opinion as fact. This board is becoming teh same.

Gus has better pocket awareness, yes and yes he should start if AJ doesnt pick it up. But honestly those that are saying that Gus has greatly outplayed AJ are fooling themselves, convincing themselves that he did when in fact their play isnt much diff. AJ had one int last nite going deep. Gus escaped 2 going deep. Yes almost doesnt count, but the bad decisions do. He did when he had time to throw. I love how many write Gus was impressive, yet how was he impressive? Overral not a play here or a play there, but overrall? AS SABAN said it is 60 minutes and you have to play all 60 minutes. Gus has made career of boneheaded decisions, 8+ years of them. Over 2 games, he showed penchent for still making dumb decisions. Now yes AJ has not shown any better, so it aint like I am extremely confident in him right now either. But is truly laughable how teh "haters" are playing up Gus performance simply because they dont want AJ. Right now I wish we would have jumped on Orton or Frye in the second or third.

I also love how AJ is magically supposed to be completely comfortable by now.

Carefull guys, your bias is showing.
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Well I do agree with the "we should have taken Orton or Frye" part. I was saying that back on draft day. Back when eveyone was saying what a steal Roth was, I was saying we have enough DEs we need a freaking QB. As for the rest I feel b/c on the way AJ has been either loved or hated, everyone came in to the preseason pulling for one or the other. I admit to disliking AJ from the begining b/c we overpaid for him, and have pulled for whoever he was competing against. However I feel others on the other side, whether they wish to admit it or not are doing just the opposite. If you can't see a big difference in leadership qualities, decision making, and ability to move the ball so far, then I would have to say it is YOU who is looking at this with a bias opinion.
 
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