Feeley Should Start

[adamprez2003]

my opinion: we have the same O-line as last year, same WRs, improved running game. The o-line coach and head coach was upgraded, but we haven't seen that translate to much on the field as of yet.

I am with you in general - i am for Feeley starting.

what i am NOT with you on - is people realizing that Feeley isn't the answer when the time comes. I think people cherish Feeley because he is the anti-fiedler. Not because of what he can do.

Feeley played worse last year than Fiedler, with the same crappy team and all. yet, at the end of the season, did the fans crack on Feeley? no, they made excuses for him. I cannot remember any excuses being made for Fiedler, even after the 2000 and 2001 seasons when he took us to the playoffs. In fact, everyone was saying we made it to the playoffs in SPITE of Fiedler.

i want to set it straight that i don't think we need fiedler, i am just mad that there is so much bias here and no consistency. Fiedler was a scapegoat, and now Feeley garners every excuse for his play out of you guys.

Like you said though, i think Feeley should start so we can see how he works in the new system. Even if Gus "worked", he's old... how many more years would he work in this system? Feeley (if he improves), could at least give us more years. But right now both are playing like crap. NOBODY here has any room to talk about who is better than whom.

I think the reason people are for Feeley is simply they prefered him to Fiedler last year and Gus this year. If he was competing against Charlie frye or Eli Manning or Alex Smith I doubt there would be anyone wanting him to be the starter. But it's Gus that he's competing against a guy who was given the starting job in his career only to have it taken away for the past 8 yrs. Feeley has gotten better from last year albeit incrimentally. Give him the starting job. He's outplayed the competition and there's noone who's a better option

 

[FIN-IN-RI]

this is apples to oranges now, because its the next year - but at the end of the year the team started to stand up under Bates. I am convinced that if Fiedler would have been in there, it would have been the same result as Feeley.

Again, not saying Fiedler was the answer. I'm just saying Feeley never did anything to prove himself over Fiedler. Age was the only plus. Any mistake Feeley ever makes, people blame inexperience.

when will it end??

No he didn't. Everyone just wanted someone other than Fielder. It wasn't Feeley's game it was his luck of the draw and his worth to the organization at that time.

 

[GCS VP]

Id rather lose 10 games with Feeley then lose 8 games with Gus. Atleast we would know what we have in Feeley and if we lose 10 games we will be in better draft position.

Just for the record:I dont think Gus wins anymore games this year then Feeley would have. They are playing about even right now, despite the fact that Gus clearly had an advantage considering he was previously in the offensive system.

I still am dumfounded that people cant admit that Feeley improved during the season last year. Look at the statistics, wins and lack of INT`s. Its right there. He played really well the last 4 games. He showed "upside" and progress.

To this day the only decision I disagree with that Saban made was bringing in Gus to compete for the starting QB job. If he didn't like what he had in Feeley he should have gotten Smith or Rodgers in the draft. We could have drafted JJ Arrington or Ciatrick Fason in a later round. But instead he brought in Gus who clearly would have an advantage in the system and here we stand today.

Our fourth pre-season game on the horizon and our QB situation is still completely in limbo.

'It's very disappointing,'' said coach Nick Saban, who used the phrase yet again before announcing that the quarterback competition that was seemingly over has been resurrected.

''I don't want to have a quarterback controversy but I want every guy to know he has an opportunity to be the quarterback if he does a good job,'' he said. ``Someone has to take the bull by the horns and make things happen and be the leader. And I'm not sure that has happened yet.''

Its all just to damn reminiscent of the last five years.

 

[GRT8]

agreed....history would be and is a good indicator that Gus isn't going to wow anyone.

 

[texasPHINSfan]

I think the reason people are for Feeley is simply they prefered him to Fiedler last year and Gus this year. If he was competing against Charlie frye or Eli Manning or Alex Smith I doubt there would be anyone wanting him to be the starter. But it's Gus that he's competing against a guy who was given the starting job in his career only to have it taken away for the past 8 yrs. Feeley has gotten better from last year albeit incrimentally. Give him the starting job. He's outplayed the competition and there's noone who's a better option

i think you're right. but that doesn't mean we should all make excuses for Feeley. Lets be objective with him and with whoever we bring in to challenge him.

Everyone's argument against Gus is just that he's been a backup everywhere, and his record everywhere else has sucked. Feeley's record sucked last year, so if you ask me, they're even. If you can bring up Frerotte's past as a "con" against him, then we can do the same for Feeley.

I think Feeley should start the next game, but only to give him a fair chance versus Frerotte. I don't think either QB has displayed ANY prowess at the position and neither deserves to be a starting QB in the NFL.

 

[CanadaPhinsFan]

I'd rather go 5-11 with AJ and have all questions answered.
A top 5 QB is going to be a HUGE!!! investment, if there are any unanswered questions about AJ, how can you commit that much money?

Can this team even afford another top 5 pick?

To me it doesn't matter which QB starts. Either way the o-line will be what determines the success of the season. I understand your point though. No matter what happens this year, Gus is not the long term answer. There is still a possibility, however slim some may think it is, that AJ could be the QB of the future.

 

[CanadaPhinsFan]

I think the reason people are for Feeley is simply they prefered him to Fiedler last year and Gus this year. If he was competing against Charlie frye or Eli Manning or Alex Smith I doubt there would be anyone wanting him to be the starter. But it's Gus that he's competing against a guy who was given the starting job in his career only to have it taken away for the past 8 yrs. Feeley has gotten better from last year albeit incrimentally. Give him the starting job. He's outplayed the competition and there's noone who's a better option

Neither QB has outplayed anyone yet. That's why Saban hasn't named a starter.

 

[adamprez2003]

i think you're right. but that doesn't mean we should all make excuses for Feeley. Lets be objective with him and with whoever we bring in to challenge him.

Everyone's argument against Gus is just that he's been a backup everywhere, and his record everywhere else has sucked. Feeley's record sucked last year, so if you ask me, they're even. If you can bring up Frerotte's past as a "con" against him, then we can do the same for Feeley.

I think Feeley should start the next game, but only to give him a fair chance versus Frerotte. I don't think either QB has displayed ANY prowess at the position and neither deserves to be a starting QB in the NFL.

Agreed that no excuses should be made for either QB. What makes the arguments so heated I think is the fact that neither one has pulled away. There is very little seperating them. I personally actually believe that Feeley has outplayed Frerotte in the preseason but only by a little. Others believe the reverse. Its a shame noone has really stepped it up and made the debates moot

 

[NJFINSFAN1]

Boy, wouldn't Orton look good in Aqua and Coral right now!

I really find it sad that we are arguing about two QB's that really will not take us anywhere!

 

[djfresh47]

What has AJ done to merit being named the starter based on potential? Starting Gus may not accomplish anything, but what does it say about AJ if he can't beat out a 12 year backup Qb? Should the team also start Eddie Moore, to see what they got, rather than going with the player that wins the job? A top 5 Qb is a big investment, but so is a top 5 player at any position. AJ has never played significant time anywhere, and for this the team should perhaps waste a season to see what they got? The best Qb should play, not the youngest guy. Feeley has never impressed me, even his brief stretch of very average play for Philly did not impress me. Gus doesn't impress me either, neither does Sage or Brock, the teams QB situation is terrible, and right now I don't think any of the QB's would even have a chance at starting for any other team in the league. AJ has potential, but what good is potential if it doesn't bring productivity?

 

[AtticusFinz]

What has AJ done to merit being named the starter based on potential? Starting Gus may not accomplish anything, but what does it say about AJ if he can't beat out a 12 year backup Qb? Should the team also start Eddie Moore, to see what they got, rather than going with the player that wins the job? A top 5 Qb is a big investment, but so is a top 5 player at any position. AJ has never played significant time anywhere, and for this the team should perhaps waste a season to see what they got? The best Qb should play, not the youngest guy. Feeley has never impressed me, even his brief stretch of very average play for Philly did not impress me. Gus doesn't impress me either, neither does Sage or Brock, the teams QB situation is terrible, and right now I don't think any of the QB's would even have a chance at starting for any other team in the league. AJ has potential, but what good is potential if it doesn't bring productivity?

hmmm.....
So you pretty much wont start Ferotte,Feeley Sage or Berlin....
Lets just not play a QB.Center can hand it off to the Ricky and Brown...

 

[Sirspud]

What has AJ done to merit being named the starter based on potential? Starting Gus may not accomplish anything, but what does it say about AJ if he can't beat out a 12 year backup Qb? Should the team also start Eddie Moore, to see what they got, rather than going with the player that wins the job? A top 5 Qb is a big investment, but so is a top 5 player at any position. AJ has never played significant time anywhere, and for this the team should perhaps waste a season to see what they got? The best Qb should play, not the youngest guy. Feeley has never impressed me, even his brief stretch of very average play for Philly did not impress me. Gus doesn't impress me either, neither does Sage or Brock, the teams QB situation is terrible, and right now I don't think any of the QB's would even have a chance at starting for any other team in the league. AJ has potential, but what good is potential if it doesn't bring productivity?

Eddie Moore has actual good players ahead of him. AJ Feely has a Qb who is, at best, slightly better than he is. AJ also hasn't spent his professional career on IR. We've been through this before, a QB requires the kind of learning that can only be done with on the field experience. Gus hasn't shown that he will be more productive than AJ. In fact, he has looked less productive! So why not see if AJ can continue his good run at the end of last year? So we can start a QB who knows the system better but cannot execute the throws?

 

[FinFan84]

Maybe Saban and staff just KNOW aj isnt an nfl calibe QB, they are experts right? So why waste a season with a guy they have no faith in for the future? I also agree however, using Gus is a waste as well, were screwed at QB this year either way you slice it.

 

[djfresh47]

hmmm.....
So you pretty much wont start Ferotte,Feeley Sage or Berlin....
Lets just not play a QB.Center can hand it off to the Ricky and Brown...

Or said they're not the answer at Qb, one or the other.

 

[djfresh47]

Eddie Moore has actual good players ahead of him. AJ Feely has a Qb who is, at best, slightly better than he is. AJ also hasn't spent his professional career on IR. We've been through this before, a QB requires the kind of learning that can only be done with on the field experience. Gus hasn't shown that he will be more productive than AJ. In fact, he has looked less productive! So why not see if AJ can continue his good run at the end of last year? So we can start a QB who knows the system better but cannot execute the throws?

Why not start the guy who wins the job?