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Feeley Should Start

inFINSible said:
The Dolphins would be better served to lose 11 games with Feeley at QB than to lose 11 games with gus at QB.

gus looks as bad, if not worse, than any QB that has come through here in the last 5 years. We're not going to the play-offs with gus as our QB. There are no if's, ands, or buts about it. If gus survives the whole season as a starter without getting injured, we'll be drafting in the top 10 and we won't know jack-**** about Feeley.

Let Feeley be the starter, learn the system by playing in it, and if he survives the whole year without getting injured we're either going to be exactly where we'd be with gus, except that we'll KNOW what Feeley is as a QB,

......or we're going to watch Feeley get better and better throughout the season.

With Feeley as the starter it's a win win even if we lose lose.

Start gus and it's a lose lose and more lose.

We don't know anything about Sage, or Brock, why not start them to "see what we got?"
 
inFINSible said:
I'd rather go 5-11 with AJ and have all questions answered.
A top 5 QB is going to be a HUGE!!! investment, if there are any unanswered questions about AJ, how can you commit that much money?

the same way the charges did with rivers and brees.

look i aqgree with your original post. however, the flaw is if gus starts, then doesn't that mean he is better by default, that the coaches already think we don't have anything in feeley?
 
HVACservice said:
What if neither "wins the job"?

My guess would be Saban would've seen enough of both players and would be better suited to make the decision on who is the best person for the job.
 
Niether of these guys is taking us anywhere. Gus has already shown again and again he is not starter material throughout his career, except for one season. AJ is a massive underachiever who I thought played to his ability by the end of last season but can't grab the bull by the horns and take the job convincingly. Six of one and half a dozen on the other.
 
djfresh47 said:
We don't know anything about Sage, or Brock, why not start them to "see what we got?"

Thing is we spent a second round pick to get Feeley....
 
djfresh47 said:
My guess would be Saban would've seen enough of both players and would be better suited to make the decision on who is the best person for the job.

I'm just afraid that Saban is going to be like Joe Gibbs last year and go with the veteran until he has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be ineffective, and played 3 more games. In SF they are making the opposite mistake and are gonna have Smith out there when he is not ready, as opposed to a veteran who should have the job because he is clearly more productive. For the record, i think Rattay is one of the only half-decent players SF has, and that they should have gone in a different direction in this years draft considering the lack of talent at the position........
 
Neither Gus nor AJ is a starting caliber QB. It doesn't matter who starts.

The Feeley camp will be out and in attack mode when/if Gus stinks up the joint (see last night)
And similarly , the Frerotte camp will be out in force if/when AJ gets his chance to suck again.
This will continue until a legitimate QBis signed and plays (That doesn't necessarily mean Tim Couch, either)
 
Megatron said:
Niether of these guys is taking us anywhere. Gus has already shown again and again he is not starter material throughout his career, except for one season. AJ is a massive underachiever who I thought played to his ability by the end of last season but can't grab the bull by the horns and take the job convincingly. Six of one and half a dozen on the other.

hey, stop using my bull by the horns quote! :rolleyes:
 
NJFINSFAN1 said:
Boy, wouldn't Orton look good in Aqua and Coral right now!

I really find it sad that we are arguing about two QB's that really will not take us anywhere!
See, here's my point....We have one QB that we know isn't taking us anywhere. We have one that hasn't taken his team anywhere in 12 years. We have another that needs to play before anybody can say with any authority whether he's a complete bust or not.

AJ may certainly be a bust, no doubt about it but, we need to find out now. Wasting time with gus getting used to playing with the starters only takes away from AJ's time to do the same thing. When we get 5 games into the season and gus has a lynch mob waiting outside his house, he gets his job taken away, then how many games do we have to wait for AJ to build the chemistry that gus spent 5 weeks wasting?

Wishing for another QB at this point is as big a waste of time as starting gus.
 
inFINSible said:
The Dolphins would be better served to lose 11 games with Feeley at QB than to lose 11 games with gus at QB.

gus looks as bad, if not worse, than any QB that has come through here in the last 5 years. We're not going to the play-offs with gus as our QB. There are no if's, ands, or buts about it. If gus survives the whole season as a starter without getting injured, we'll be drafting in the top 10 and we won't know jack-**** about Feeley.

Let Feeley be the starter, learn the system by playing in it, and if he survives the whole year without getting injured we're either going to be exactly where we'd be with gus, except that we'll KNOW what Feeley is as a QB,

......or we're going to watch Feeley get better and better throughout the season.

With Feeley as the starter it's a win win even if we lose lose.

Start gus and it's a lose lose and more lose.
Very good post!
 
djfresh47 said:
What has AJ done to merit being named the starter based on potential? Starting Gus may not accomplish anything, but what does it say about AJ if he can't beat out a 12 year backup Qb? Should the team also start Eddie Moore, to see what they got, rather than going with the player that wins the job? A top 5 Qb is a big investment, but so is a top 5 player at any position. AJ has never played significant time anywhere, and for this the team should perhaps waste a season to see what they got? The best Qb should play, not the youngest guy. Feeley has never impressed me, even his brief stretch of very average play for Philly did not impress me. Gus doesn't impress me either, neither does Sage or Brock, the teams QB situation is terrible, and right now I don't think any of the QB's would even have a chance at starting for any other team in the league. AJ has potential, but what good is potential if it doesn't bring productivity?
You spent the whole paragraph making a point, and then you shoot your own point in the foot with your last sentence.

He has potential, you said it yourself, what good is that potential if he's sitting on the bench?

Eli sucked last year, flat out unproductive with a capital UN, but they played him, why? Because he had potential.

The only way to get from potential to productive is through play.
 
inFINSible said:
What good is potential sitting on the bench?

As good as Gruden's veteran Bucs teams were the last two years, cause remember, he doesn't care about potential, only production. Remember that when he loses his job. He may get one more pass this year because his GM is still relatively new, but two more mediocre years and he's gone. I would say that is a strong likelihood unless they have a fantastic draft next year or a miracle this year.
 
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