Feeley's better than Gus or Saban's an Idiot

[touborg]

This poll makes me laugh. Saban isn't playing Feeley because he's not good enough, and people just hang on to Feeley, a career backup, because saying "hey I was wrong, let's move on" is too much, even on the internet.

 

[Dphins4me]

Feeley is not better then gus, and has not done anything to prove his is better then gus..

True, and Gus has done nothing proving he his better than AJ, despite having a 2 year knowledge lead on the offense & more field time playing in it.

If Miami starts Gus this year, then its really no different then the Fiedler years. He gives them the best chance to win now, however small advantage it might be.

I don't care how he got there, when he got there, he still went to the pro bowl. When QB's like Ben Roethlisberger go 13 straight wins, or more, throw only 11 int's, and not go to the probowl, it shows you just how hard it is to make it. Yes, QB's do have a downside on their career, but Frerotte is not old, and he has done more in the league. Feeley has not done anything, YET..

That was 9 or 10 years ago for Gus. A lot of bench time for Gus since then.

Too use Gus making the PB once in a 12 year career as the rock of this debate is just about asinine (Sorry, but it is)

 

[touborg]

True, and Gus has done nothing proving he his better than AJ, despite having a 2 year knowledge lead on the offense & more field time playing in it.

Actually, Gus has a pro bowl.....

 

[KillerPhin05]

i really dont like feeley over gus

 

[Dphins4me]

Actually, Gus has a pro bowl.....

Yes, but I was referring to his time in Miami, not Washington. Also as I post. Gus's PB trip was 9 years ago.

9 years is a long time & does not mean he is the QB now he was then, not that he was anything special then.

The NFC took 5 QBs to the PB that year.

Just because a player once went to a PB does not mean they are still at that level. Players age & skills diminish or Marino would still be the QB of Miami.

 

[touborg]

Yes, but I was referring to his time in Miami, not Washington. Also as I post. Gus's PB trip was 9 years ago.

9 years is a long time & does not mean he is the QB now he was then, not that he was anything special then.

The NFC took 5 QBs to the PB that year.

Just because a player once went to a PB does not mean they are still at that level. Players age & skills diminish or Marino would still be the QB of Miami.

Oh in Miami?

Feeley has a year on Gus and he's still not our starter. He couldn't beat out Harrington, McNabb, Fiedler and right now Gus is putting him on the bench. Like I said, we all loved it here when he came to replace Fiedler, but we just have to accept he's not our long time solution.

 

[Dphins4me]

Oh in Miami?

Feeley has a year on Gus and he's still not our starter. He couldn't beat out Harrington, McNabb, Fiedler and right now Gus is putting him on the bench. Like I said, we all loved it here when he came to replace Fiedler.

AJ may have resided in Miami for a year, but that means little when you bring in a new offense.

What does Harrington college career have to do with this? The man was a Heisman canidate & No. 3 pick of the NFL draft. Damn you AJ.

McNabb? Yea. Not gonna touch that one.

Fiedler? We all know very well that Wanny wanted JF to be the QB. We all know Speilman pushed AJ on Wanny. We all know once Speilman allowed JF to come back to Miami what was going to happen. Wanny was not is the situation to allow a young QB to take his lumps.

Wanny put AJ behind what might be the worst OL & the worst running game in the history of the NFL while spliting reps with a QB who knew the offense for 5 years & you want to ask why AJ failed last year.

Come on.

but we just have to accept he's not our long time solution.

I'm not so sure about that. I'd like to see him take his lumps this year & see how he does. Most QB struggle their first time starting in the NFL. Why should we think AJ would be different. Especially with no OL or running game.

 

[abNORMal]

Oh in Miami?

Feeley has a year on Gus and he's still not our starter. He couldn't beat out Harrington, McNabb, Fiedler and right now Gus is putting him on the bench. Like I said, we all loved it here when he came to replace Fiedler, but we just have to accept he's not our long time solution.

Don't forget Detmer!!!:rofl3:

 

[His'nBeatYour'n]

This poll makes me laugh. Saban isn't playing Feeley because he's not good enough, and people just hang on to Feeley, a career backup, because saying "hey I was wrong, let's move on" is too much, even on the internet.

When was it determined that Saban wasn't playing Feeley?

The best thing for this offense would be to name a starter now, right? Saban hasn't because it is too close. If Feeley is so clearly a career back up then why has the almighty Saban not cut, demoted him to 3rd, or given Gus the job yet? This is my main point. So many on this board has given up on Feeley while his own coach has not. Saban has no loyalty to this guy. It must be because he and Linehan see something, somewhere, that just maybe Feeley can do it. It's not a vote of confidence. But hey, that's the Dolphins QB situation since Marino retired.

Will you say you were wrong if Feeley is named the starter?

 

[His'nBeatYour'n]

I'd like to see him take his lumps this year & see how he does. Most QB struggle their first time starting in the NFL. Why should we think AJ would be different. Especially with no OL or running game.

And why not, because Gus is definitely no Rich Gannon.

 

[PhinBeck]

Feeley is not better then gus, and has not done anything to prove his is better then gus. I don't care how he got there, when he got there, he still went to the pro bowl. When QB's like Ben Roethlisberger go 13 straight wins, or more, throw only 11 int's, and not go to the probowl, it shows you just how hard it is to make it. Yes, QB's do have a downside on their career, but Frerotte is not old, and he has done more in the league. Feeley has not done anything, YET.

Pro Bowl? Come on! That is ridiculous argument. Kordell Stewart made it twice, you want him? How many teams need to let Gus walk before you get the picture? I hope if Gus starts, and it looks like he will, he shows that he has used those mistakes to make him a solid starter, but acting as if he making a pro bowl qualifies him as a good qb is just funny.

 

[PhinBeck]

Don't forget Detmer!!!:rofl3:

LOL! another argument w/o facts.


Harrington, he did start over Joey til he had elbow surgery requiring him to miss a year, by the time he could play again, Harrington was entrenched. McNabb, yeah #3 overall and a a good qb vs a fth rd pick? Yeah AJ had a shot at that job. Detmer? Yeah give me a fact that had McNabb gone out for extended time Detmer would have started and not AJ? Reid said AJ would have started, Eagles fan say it. BEFORE there was a trade. Because of a depth chart? That has been explained, but you choose to ignore teh possibilities and look at paper because it helps your side fine, doesnt make it true or fact.

 

[JeffJewell]

All it would prove is that AJ learned the offense much faster than anyone could have expected.

Frerotte is not here because anyone expects him to be the qb of the future... he is just the guy that knows the new offense being put in. That's why this was never really a competition; it's simply not realistic to think that Feeley, in a few weeks, could get to the point where he understands the offense the way the veteran Frerotte does... the way Saban and Linehan would like their field general to understand the offense while everyone around him is still learning it.

This is actually good, not bad, for Feeley's long-term prospects with the Dolphins. Let Frerotte take the bumps and bruises while everybody's learning which direction to go. If Feeley actually learns the offense and has any kind of ability, Saban will certainly get him playing time as the season progresses, knowing that Frerotte cannot be the starter on opening day next year. That way Feeley doesn't get shell-shocked should the Dolphins get creamed coming out of the gate (not entirely unthinkable), and gets his shot with an offense around that knows what they're doing a hell of a lot better than they did opening day.

I mean seriously... I do think the o-line will start to gel and eventually be better than last year... but does anyone think the opening day line is going to help their qb anymore than last year's did? I think starting Feeley opening day is just setting him up to fail.

As long as Feeley shows more long-term promise than Brock Berlin, he will get a shot with the Dolphins, almost certainly later this season. But expecting Feeley to start from opening day isn't realistic, and it isn't even the best thing for Feeley's career in Miami.

 

[CanadaPhinsFan]

Oh in Miami?

Feeley has a year on Gus and he's still not our starter. He couldn't beat out Harrington, McNabb, Fiedler and right now Gus is putting him on the bench. Like I said, we all loved it here when he came to replace Fiedler, but we just have to accept he's not our long time solution.

There's no way Gus is the long term solution either. Not at his age. They may as well let Feeley start to find out once and for all if he can be the QB for this team going forward.

 

[Finland]

I am directing this question to those who consider Saban infallible, and they also think Feeley sucks. That Feeley is still on the roster disproves at least one of these. If he starts can these absolutists possibly cope?

Actually, your argumentation is far from correct. Clearly an infallible coach may leave a QB that sucks on the roster for many reasons. Say what it is you want to say to the people that think Saban is error free or that likel Feeley. Why have them play a game or answer a poll to set them up. Spit it out already.

I think Feeley has been kept because we need him as a backup for our career backup. I think Saban should have gone QB and done what it took to go #1 in the draft. We may never be that high again.