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Fire Ireland.. Hire Pioli

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Scott Pioli built this Kansas city chiefs team that is currently destroying the colts. He did it in three years.. he was not.given a chance to see the fruits of his labor but we are seeing it today. The guy built the patriots and now the chiefs. Ross needs to seriously consider Pioli if he decides to fire Ireland.
 
Its amazing that despite already a week into the humiliating debacle of losing to two pathetic teams at the end of the year, we still have no action from " Deer in the headlites" owner Steven Ross, we still dont have a diffinitive resolution about the "three stooges" Philbin, Ireland and Sherman......and the fans are begining to talk themselves out of what is right, their initial assesment of the incompetence of the current staff..........Do not drink the Kolaid from the Dolphin brass.......firing all three and replacing with Pioli or others is treason against the Dolphin fans..................once again the Dolphins and Hurricanes the college version of the dolphins have sunk to irrelevance in the world of football..........how sad and what a shame
 
Never ceases to amaze me how people think Pioli "built" the Chiefs.

The overwhelmingly vast majority of the players who make an impact on that roster were drafted by Carl Peterson. Their quarterback was obviously brought in by whoever their new GM is(name escapes me at the moment).

The only good ones Pioli brought in are Berry and Poe. Thats it. I guess you can add McCluster to that as well, though didnt he get his pro-bowl nod due to special teams? 3 players in 4 years. Thats Ireland-ish.
 
Shoot, I wrote a long message and lost my post. In short, I went through Pioli's picks and other bad decisions (hiring Todd Haley and trading a high pick for Matt Cassell). Pioli's record was undistinguished and certainly not someone to bring in for a regime change. Pioli was GM in KC from 2009-2012. In those 4 drafts, he bombed in 2009. He made a massive reach for Tyson Jackson. In 2011 he reached for Jonathan Baldwin but did draft Justin Houston. Other than Houston, he really screwed up that draft.

In 2010, he did have a good draft, getting Eric Berry, Dexter McCluster, Jon Asamoah (and even Tony Moeki who was promising until injuries led to his seeking exile in Buffalo). In 2012, he got Dontari Poe and Donald Stephenson.

An interesting point here is that the year BEFORE Pioli got there, in 2008, the Chiefs drafted well with Glenn Dorsey, Branden Albert, Brandon Flowers, Jamaal Charles, Brandon Carr, and Barry Richardson. Derrick Johnson was drafted in '05, Tamba Hali in '06, and Dwayne Bowe in '07. So, two observations. The Chiefs have done a nice job bringing in blue chip players. Before Pioli ever got there, the Chiefs had D Johnson, Hali, Bowe, Albert, Flowers, and Charles. Then Pioli added Houston, McCluster, Berry, Asamoah, Poe, and Stephenson. Net result: the Chiefs have collected a really nice group of draftees. Even though Pioli bombed on way too many picks, it shows that if you get some elite players (not middling like Miami does) that's far more important than having a roster full of average players drafted across the board. This is where Miami bombs. Not enough high caliber picks made.
 
It doesnt matter if Pioli is equal to Ireland, something different to complain about would be good for a change. With that being said, I dont see how Pioli is at least as good as Ireland.
 
Scott Pioli built this Kansas city chiefs team that is currently destroying the colts. He did it in three years.. he was not.given a chance to see the fruits of his labor but we are seeing it today. The guy built the patriots and now the chiefs. Ross needs to seriously consider Pioli if he decides to fire Ireland.

Pioli got canned because of his Cassel contract and horrible coach hires. Last year, KC had the most pro bowlers and picked #1 overall.
 
How was Pioli in New England? They don't seem to draft as good now as they did when he was there.
 
Scott Pioli built this Kansas city chiefs team that is currently destroying the colts. He did it in three years.. he was not.given a chance to see the fruits of his labor but we are seeing it today. The guy built the patriots and now the chiefs. Ross needs to seriously consider Pioli if he decides to fire Ireland.

Which is exactly what will happen to Ireland if he is fired.
 
Pioli sure is great at putting together teams that can't finish. Just what we need, right?
 
Pioli didn't build anything. In fact he was notorious for treating employees like complete crap, having a huge ego, being ultra paranoid, and generally a complete twat in KC.
 
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