Former Dolphins scout threatening to sue the team after contract not renewed

[Hayden Fox]

Pointing out facts that counter silly statements that are essentially calling the scout lazy is nitpicking? Your (his) analogy doesn't even come close to the situation with the scout; so pointing out the flaw in such a comparison is not nitpicking, it's pointing out an error that negates the entire argument. Need more? Fine. The comparison doesn't work unless the teacher begins teaching the class from home because of a family member with disability and the class is able to be taught from home. He didn't just decide, "hey, **** this office stuff, I'm going to do this from home!" That would fit the analogy given. Again, that's not nitpicking. Considering the scout has been doing this for a decade and is the same job he did while in the office, it's safe to assume he was able to accomplish his work tasks of scouting game film.

However, if it is nitpicking, is nitpicking worse than making big assumptions like "he was fired because his reports suck" without anything to back it up other than the anger one has that their precious team is accused of doing something wrong?

Personally, I'm not going to make such assumptions. The team hasn't released why they fired him and likely won't. If they settle, we will likely never no because there will probably be a clause that prevents the release of that info. On the other hand, if they go to court, then we'll all know. I imagine the Phins would rather avoid the trouble and will probably settle if he opts to sue. Either way, he's an asshole in the eyes of many here simply because the Dolphins can do no wrong. I'll go ahead and wait to make such assumptions. Way too many questions. Was it performance-based? If it was just that Hickey didn't want him working from home, did he offer him the opportunity to come back to the office? If so, were they aware that it would likely require some kind of paid home care for the wife, which would likely increase the cost for the team? If they were aware, did that influence the decision to fire him? I could go on. Simply too many unknowns to say which side was in the wrong, if any. Therefore, blasting this guy because he said a meanie thing about the Glorious Miami Dolphins is ridiculous.

By the way, in my analogy, the teacher is equal to the scout in this situation….not the student to the scout.

Therefore, the teacher is more than likely at a school or some learning institution ie. a workplace...conducting the online class. Which in turn makes your criticism of my take quite lame.

 

[rent this space]

Well, if his reports sucked why didn't Hickey cite his PERFORMANCE as the issue rather than stating that "working remotely didn't work for him"? Either way, if the report is true Hickey screwed up one way or another. Either by being a heartless ahole to fire a guy caring for his ailing wife simply because he didn't like the arrangement, or for not properly explaining the reason for the guy's dismissal.

that's what I'm saying, even if the fired him because Hickey didn't like him working remotely, it should never have been said. of course it's possible that Hickey never said it

 

[truedolfan57]

and i'm using maybe's, because no one has an ounce of a clue as to what's really going on. other than an article written to obviously have an agenda, since they threw in the bullygate crap, which has what to do with this scout getting fired?

and as a fan of the dolphins, I like to think the personel for the team are not monsters, unless proven so, with actual evidence.

 

[KTOWNFINFAN]

How in the **** can you be a "scout" while being planted at home? Look up the definition of the word. That would like a truck driver demanding he be allowed to work from home....

Or the QB for that matter.

 

[SkapePhin]

oh, so that articles states nothing but facts and everything is well into context. good to know. I got a bridge to sell you in the desert.

The Dolphins can do no harm. The media is the devil. They fabricate EVERYTHING relating to the Dolphins, and only the Dolphins.

 

[roy_miami]

Whenever anyone uses an excessive amount of "maybes" in a post it shows that they are actively seeking to excuse away behavior they don't agree with. The facts, as presented, clearly show Hickey in the wrong.

When he asked Jimmy Johnson if he could work from home was Jimmy obligated to let him work from home because of the disability according to the law? I highly doubt it. It seems to me the organization went above and beyond what they were required to do and now they are being sued to maintain that standard.

Sure it might be a dick move but one man being worth billions while children are starving is kind of dickish too, still its neither here nor there as far as the law is concerned.

 

[SkapePhin]

and i'm using maybe's, because no one has an ounce of a clue as to what's really going on. other than an article written to obviously have an agenda, since they threw in the bullygate crap, which has what to do with this scout getting fired?

and as a fan of the dolphins, I like to think the personel for the team are not monsters, unless proven so, with actual evidence.

The bullygate quote was a quote from his lawyer, not Marvez.

 

[truedolfan57]

The Dolphins can do no harm. The media is the devil. They fabricate EVERYTHING relating to the Dolphins, and only the Dolphins.

How about the people that jump to conclusions and scream doom and gloom off of one report?

 

[SkapePhin]

How about the people that jump to conclusions and scream doom and gloom off of one report?

Don't worry, the sky fell on this franchise several years ago... I'm just waiting around for someone to put it back where it belongs.

 

[truedolfan57]

The bullygate quote was a quote from his lawyer, not Marvez.

and added to an article about a scout getting fired. still don't see how one goes with the other...

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Don't worry, the sky fell on this franchise several years ago... I'm just waiting around for someone to put it back where it belongs.

could always be worse. grass is not always greener...

 

[SkapePhin]

and added to an article about a scout getting fired. still don't see how one goes with the other...

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could always be worse. grass is not always greener...

I think the article makes it quite clear why the lawyer made those comments in his letter:

The intent-to-initiate-litigation letter states the NFL is also listed as a potential defendant because the league has "not officially disciplined nor taken steps to eliminate the systemic discriminatory practices by the Miami Dolphins, LTD." The letter cites the "ignorant and inappropriate homosexual comments" directed at former Dolphins offensive lineman Jonathan Martin as part of the Richie Incognito bullying scandal as well as recent homophobic tweets by Miami defensive back Don Jones about St. Louis Rams defensive end Michael Sam.

The lawyer is basically making the claim that the Dolphins use "systemic discriminatory practices" and the NFL has done nothing to stop it. Yes, it is a smarmy lawyer tactic to try to tie this to something truly unrelated, but its just a lawyer doing what lawyers do.

However, you made the claim that the writer was slanting the article by trying to tie this event with bullygate. That wasn't the case. He was simply reporting what the lawyer wrote and the lawyer's justification for the suit.

 

[KTOWNFINFAN]

For all of you who think the Americans with Disability act doesn't apply to major league sports, I will point out the example of golfer Casey Martin who was allowed to use a golf cart to participate in PGA tour events due to a disability that affected his legs. He had to sue to get this concession and the courts forced the PGA tour to make the accommodation to his disability.

What has that got to do with anything?? We aren't talking about the scout that has medical issues we are talking about his wife, who DOESN'T work for the dolphins.

 

[truedolfan57]

I think the article makes it quite clear why the lawyer made those comments in his letter:



The lawyer is basically making the claim that the Dolphins use "systemic discriminatory practices" and the NFL has done nothing to stop it. Yes, it is a smarmy lawyer tactic to try to tie this to something truly unrelated, but its just a lawyer doing what lawyers do.

However, you made the claim that the writer was slanting the article by trying to tie this event with bullygate. That wasn't the case. He was simply reporting what the lawyer wrote and the lawyer's justification for the suit.

so is he suing the dolphins, or the NFL? again, what does the NFL not taking action on bullygate, have to do with all of this? The dolphins have taken action, that they seem fit.

 

[SkapePhin]

so is he suing the dolphins, or the NFL? again, what does the NFL not taking action on bullygate, have to do with all of this? The dolphins have taken action, that they seem fit.

I got the impression he is suing both, unless they rehire him.

"This (NFL) inaction only serves to foster these illegal practices," the letter states. "The National Football League has failed to ensure a working environment within (the Dolphins) which eliminates discrimination in all its reprehensible forms."

sent via overnight mail Tuesday to the Dolphins and NFL, claims that Sullivan was terminated earlier this month because new Miami general manager Dennis Hickey was unhappy about his remote working status.

 

[KTOWNFINFAN]

If this guy gets away with this blackmail, what is to keep other scouts from moving in their grandmothers or great aunt and saying now they should get to stay at home?? If Hickey or anyone else no longer has a need for a certain position he has the right to build his staff the way he wishes. In 2008 the company I worked for was bought out and the new owners caned nearly all the supervisors. I lost a very good job, one that I haven't been able to come close to replacing, but that was their right. It happens every day.

Obamacare has put MANY companies in the situation where they either have to cut back their work staff or go out of busniess. There is nothing here to make us think this is what happened here, but even if it is it isn't the dolphins or NFL's problem. Tell this lawyer to go sue the president.