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Four Options: Tua/Dolphins

Imagine if Tua had thrown 4 INT's in a playoff game like Trevor Lawrence did in 2022 before crumbling in 2023 and not even making the post season.

Imagine if Tua had blown a 27-0 lead in his only playoff game like Justin Herbert did, in the same game as Trevor Lawrence's 4 INT's, before really CRUMBLING in 2023.

Imagine if Tua had gone 1-6 in his final 7 games of 2023, including a 23 points shellacking to Baker Mayfield, like Jalen Hurts did with a healthy roster in the playoffs.

Imagine if we had to give a team draft capital to take Tua's contract off our hands, like the Rams did with Goff.

Imagine if Tua had lost to Zach Wilson and the 2023 Jets, something Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts did.

Imagine if Tua's only playoff loss was to the greatest NFL player of all time in -30 degree weather. Oh wait, that one is true.
I love that narrative... "Justin Herbert blew a 0-27"

If it were golden boy Tua, it'd be "the defense let Tua down and blew a 27-0 lead"
 
Yep. Transition cheaper.
And both options are stupid for Miami. If Miami used either of those options, they would have to match the contract offered by another team exactly. Another team could structure the money anyway they would like to the detriment of Miami being able to match the offer. That's why it's better for Miami to get a contract done before next year or just make him play under the franchise tag. Miami could then structure the contract the way they deem manageable under their cap structure. Doing it your suggested way either screws Miami by having to match another team's contract the way they constructed it, or they have to let Tua walk, and you don't have a starting QB. Both options are BAD.
 
I love that narrative... "Justin Herbert blew a 0-27"

If it were golden boy Tua, it'd be "the defense let Tua down and blew a 27-0 lead"

Which is the actual truth. I am just pointing out the ridiculousness of "narratives" being all about the QB's.

A blown 27-0 lead would entail criticism of almost everyone though.
 
Well, the 2025 draft doesn't look like it has answers and there's no one in free agency that I would rate higher than Tua.

Prescott is probably on the same level, but he's never gotten it done and he's been around longer than Tua.

I personally think Tua is about the ninth best quarterback in football. That's worth paying IMO. Contracts are only going to get higher. In other words, five years down the road, it will look like a bargain.
 
And both options are stupid for Miami. If Miami used either of those options, they would have to match the contract offered by another team exactly. Another team could structure the money anyway they would like to the detriment of Miami being able to match the offer. That's why it's better for Miami to get a contract done before next year or just make him play under the franchise tag. Miami could then structure the contract the way they deem manageable under their cap structure. Doing it your suggested way either screws Miami by having to match another team's contract the way they constructed it, or they have to let Tua walk, and you don't have a starting QB. Both options are BAD.
So you think a team is going to waste all their time negotiating with a player, write up crappy terms, be binded to them, be willing to give up 2 1st rounders, just to screw over the Dolphins?

They also can also before they tag him negotiate the contract. Knowing a tag is coming with a weaker team (cap space for tag) in his contract year, Tua will definitely want to get a deal done.
 
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So you think a team is going to waste all their time negotiating with a player, write up crappy terms, be binded to them, be willing to give up 2 1st rounders, just to screw over the Dolphins?

They also can also before they tag him negotiate the contract. Knowing a tag is coming with a weaker team (cap space for tag) in his contract year, Tua will definitely want to get a deal done.
The Pats did it for Wes Welker...lol!
 
Tua has been in one playoff game in sub zero temperatures and the defense threw the game against Tennessee. Let's just see what happens this year.
 
Imagine if Tua had thrown 4 INT's in a playoff game like Trevor Lawrence did in 2022 before crumbling in 2023 and not even making the post season.

Imagine if Tua had blown a 27-0 lead in his only playoff game like Justin Herbert did, in the same game as Trevor Lawrence's 4 INT's, before really CRUMBLING in 2023.

Imagine if Tua had gone 1-6 in his final 7 games of 2023, including a 23 points shellacking to Baker Mayfield, like Jalen Hurts did with a healthy roster in the playoffs.

Imagine if we had to give a team draft capital to take Tua's contract off our hands, like the Rams did with Goff.

Imagine if Tua had lost to Zach Wilson and the 2023 Jets, something Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts did.

Imagine if Tua had two additional OL drafted in the first and third rounds instead of those picks being forfeited because the owner of the team is a douche.

Imagine if Tua's only playoff loss was to the greatest NFL player of all time in -30 degree weather.

Oh wait, those last two are true.

Nice one!
 
I love that narrative... "Justin Herbert blew a 0-27"

If it were golden boy Tua, it'd be "the defense let Tua down and blew a 27-0 lead"
Are you not one of the posters that blames Tua for the Tennessee loss. Must mean Tua blew a 14 point lead in the last 3 minutes.
 
Are you not one of the posters that blames Tua for the Tennessee loss. Must mean Tua blew a 14 point lead in the last 3 minutes.
The defense was the main reason they lost that game but Tua and the offense aren't blameless either. They didn't do anything at the end of that game when they had a chance to get some first downs or even to get in field goal range with a chance to win it. The bottom line is they didn't get it done in crunch time.
 
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Here is a good article to discuss on Tua and the Dolphins...


Speculation is fun, but in the end, I anticipate the use by the Dolphins of the franchise tag due to our current cap situation.

Tua really has no legitimate gripe because it's part of a contract he signed. Of course, the "Lemmings" here don't let gripes go because they are illegitimate.

The really good news here that folks keep missing that there are no bad guys in this negotiation, except for those "Lemmings".

The bait has been thrown; now let's see how many of our "bottom feeders" bite? - LOL
 
All these QB's with $50M+ a year contracts and the tag is only $45M. That doesn't quite make sense. The formula they use to come up with these tags numbers is sketchy. Even more reason to abolish the franchise tag.

Hurts, Lawrence, Herbert, Jackson, Goff, Burrow, Allen all at or above $50M a year.

Because like the 50+ a year aav, none of it is really true. Most are backloaded or filled with void years. Nobody is actually paying 50+ every year straight. It’s a mix of current cap hits and only 4 qbs will actually clear 50+ million and that’s Mahomes, Watson, Stafford and surprisingly Carr who might get cut before he ever sees that.
 
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