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Framework set for Ryan Tannehill, Dolphins

I understand Miami wants to cover all the bases and potentially save millions, but it seems they often choose the wrong battles to stand up for. This "off-set language" issue does indeed show they are not convinced Tannehill will be their quarterback of the future- at the very least, it creates doubt in the organization's minds, the fans and possibly Tannehill. It seems more worth it to just sign the guy and keep everyones' optimism intact.
 
hooshoops said:
another thing under this new cba if you got extra cap money why wouldn't you front load the hell out of any of these rookie qb contracts cap hit wise in year 1 so that if in a year you decide to go a different route you take a lesser hit going forward??? i would...

i think what you're gonna see is teams moving on at the position a whole lot faster now...maybe not miami i guess but imo you better show early or i'm at minimum bringing in some legit draft competition a whole lot faster than i would have prior if i was gonna eat so much and kill my short term cap
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There are rules dictating how much a player's salary can go up or down from one year to the next.
 
Logan Thomas is the next Cam Newton, IMO, so I toss out every single rule and preconceived notion out of the window if I'm sitting there on the clock and he's available.
 
spiketex said:
Unless there is an exceptional compelling reason that surfaces, I suggest that we look outside of the QBs. Tannehill may take a while but he has high potential and we shouldn't be too impatient. I say we draft other needs eg WR or DE.
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There's an argument to be made that the rookie wage scale has changed things SO significantly, that things you thought to be 'common sense' before no longer are the smart thing to do.

The QB position has become so important in this league, you do have to wonder what is the downside of NEVER saying 'no' to that position unless you know for sure that you have a QUALITY franchise level starter? And I'm not just talking like a Joe Flacco franchise starter, I'm talking a Rogers/Brees/Brady/Manning/Roethlisberger/Manning/Rivers type guy. Until you know you have one of those guys, if another one falls in your lap...why say no to it?

When HALF of the players taken in the first round end up busts...is it really going to hurt your franchise that much to use the 1st round as your QB "tax" until you've found a guy you know you can win the Super Bowl with?

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Crazy685 said:
Logan Thomas is the next Cam Newton, IMO, so I toss out every single rule and preconceived notion out of the window if I'm sitting there on the clock and he's available.
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I'm with you. I know you disagree but I also toss out the rulebook for Matt Barkley as well. He's a special prospect at the position.

Tyler Wilson is more a guy I could take or leave.
 
ckparrothead said:
Really makes you wonder about the QB position. Logan Thomas, Matt Barkley or Tyler Wilson are available to you in next year's Draft...what do you do?
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I'm picking one unless Tannehill shows that he definitely is the future. Keep picking a QB until you get the right one and this CBA allows to teams to do that. I suspect you would do the same.
 
MadDog 88 said:
I'm picking one unless Tannehill shows that he definitely is the future. Keep picking a QB until you get the right one and this CBA allows to teams to do that. I suspect you would do the same.
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I'm picking the RIGHT one unless Tannehill shows a lot of promise.

And I'd come right out and say, this isn't based on anything Tannehill's shown or not shown, this is based on the importance of the position in this league, and may the best man win. We want something you rarely see in the NFL...a TRUE competition at the QB position.
 
Crazy685 said:
Logan Thomas is the next Cam Newton, IMO, so I toss out every single rule and preconceived notion out of the window if I'm sitting there on the clock and he's available.
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poor mans cam newton...

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ckparrothead said:
There are rules dictating how much a player's salary can go up or down from one year to the next.
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well that makes a difference...
 
MadDog 88 said:
I'm picking one unless Tannehill shows that he definitely is the future. Keep picking a QB until you get the right one and this CBA allows to teams to do that. I suspect you would do the same.
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I'm picking the RIGHT one unless Tannehill shows a lot of promise.

And I'd come right out and say, this isn't based on anything Tannehill's shown or not shown, this is based on the importance of the position in this league, and may the best man win. We want something you rarely see in the NFL...a TRUE competition at the QB position.
 
Never know if he is unless he is playing, holding a clipboard doesnt give you much to go on, that's why he should be playing.
 
bottom line for me is wilson and barkley have better tape than tanny and logan thomas is just another one of those once every half decade duel threat physical tools prospects that teams go bananas over...i don't think you pass on any of them...tannehill in the building or not...unless tanny looks legit if he gets some looks...

personally i think all 3 are better prospects right now than tanny...barkley and wilson strike me as more polished qbs and definitely better play from the pocket qbs and thomas is a physical freak that people are gonna jump on looking for the next cam newton...

honestly though unless we blow i don't think we sniff any of them...all 3 of these guys are top 10 pick locks
 
Every dollar counts. If the offset language means avoiding other players restructuring in the future, I'm for it - though obviously I don't want Tannehill to bust. Who knows. A few million could make the difference between having a player or two content with their contracts, or even provide the opportunity for a low-risk/high-reward one-year pickup that could round us out.
 
I'd take a look at Tyler Wilson if we're going to take a QB. I'd rather we get a WR or something, but if we were to go the QB route, I'd go with Tyler Wilson. I was hoping that dude would come out last year.
 
hooshoops said:
poor mans cam newton...
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Cam Newton, coming out, was a very poor man's Cam Newton. Nobody can sit there and tell me they expected him to have the season he did. He showed such hilarious inability to throw a touch pass... or a deep out... or hell even a standard 15 yard comeback with proper timing, that he was the furthest thing from a top prospect we've seen.

Logan Thomas looks exactly like Cam Newton to me, but with more starts. Maybe that's a bad thing, actually...

What are the similarities and differences you see between the two, outta curiosity? I haven't had any time to look at Barkley from last year.
 
Crazy685 said:
Cam Newton, coming out, was a very poor man's Cam Newton. Nobody can sit there and tell me they expected him to have the season he did. He showed such hilarious inability to throw a touch pass... or a deep out... or hell even a standard 15 yard comeback with proper timing, that he was the furthest thing from a top prospect we've seen.

Logan Thomas looks exactly like Cam Newton to me, but with more starts. Maybe that's a bad thing, actually...

What are the similarities and differences you see between the two, outta curiosity? I haven't had any time to look at Barkley from last year.
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Why not? I did. I had him hailed as exactly what he was in January/February before that Draft.
 
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