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Further proof that the Dolphins need to clean house summed up in one tweet.

I believe the Packers use a similar cadence to the Dolphins.
 
finomenal said:
Now I'm expecting perfection even though I never once said that anywhere. Okay...

Who's being logical now?
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Relax. We are an average team right now. Our record says so. We have played 6 games. Deep breaths man. We still have 10 to go. Lets just see what happens before we fire and cut everyone
 
finomenal said:
I explained my logic earlier. You can disagree with it. That's okay. A statement isn't logical only because you agree with the statement though.
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what's logical about taking issue with something most teams do. this is part of footbal, every team has a simple phrase which means pass or run. study enough film on other teams, you will catch onto that phrase. in the end it doesn't make a difference
 
The Go / Go Go thing mean nothing to a defender. They will get more of an advantage studying tendencies see Robey's Pick 6.

What it does do is hurt your offense in terms of hard counts. But to give a defender an advantage it is way overblown.

They can get more tips on pass vs run by knowing tendencies and formations. Also OL will tip it long before a cadance. IMO this entire thing is over blown by fin fans wanting to bash something with the coach and or QB.

Nothing to see here
 
PhinzN703 said:
Doesn't Andrew Luck shout out the same thing before the snap? While it is funny that while we as fans had seen the go/go-go cadence by Tannehill, does the defense really have that big of an advantage? They'd have a split second to decide if they're going to drop back on a pass or come up to stop the run if they "knew it was coming".
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maybe coming from you it will be better accepted than from me. i voiced the same opinion and got told i was a moron. just not enough time for the defense process the info and react accordingly. if it was the case we would have some huge gains off of play fakes just waiting to be exploited.
 
PhinzN703 said:
Doesn't Andrew Luck shout out the same thing before the snap? While it is funny that while we as fans had seen the go/go-go cadence by Tannehill, does the defense really have that big of an advantage? They'd have a split second to decide if they're going to drop back on a pass or come up to stop the run if they "knew it was coming".
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Well it would take the guessing out of a play action pass!
 
John Biello said:
maybe coming from you it will be better accepted than from me. i voiced the same opinion and got told i was a moron. just not enough time for the defense process the info and react accordingly. if it was the case we would have some huge gains off of play fakes just waiting to be exploited.
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:lol:

Sorry to hear you were called a moron. Some folks can be cruel.

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flynryan15 said:
Well it would take the guessing out of a play action pass!
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Tannehill snaps the ball right after his cadence so the defense has no reaction time to lay off the "fake run" if it's a playaction pass. If he said "GO" 5 seconds before snapping it then there'd be a huge problem.
 
Omar's opinion rearing its ugly head once again...
 
its more cus he is back in shotgun too much than anything else. When your in shotgun, you are basically passing 80% of the time. All you need to do is get to spot X in 2 seconds with an inside move. mario just proved this.
 
Not every team does this.

I noticed the same thing the poster did. With that, I kept a close eye on the SNF game to see what Luck does (not Manning bc I know he says everything and anything). Luck not only changes the snap count, but he even tried pulling the Broncos offsides.

Go look at how dynamic his calls at the line are. I'm not saying Tannehill needs to be as great as Luck during this stage of his career, but come on people. Something this simple to adjust, should be changed.

Forget if they care whether it's go for pass or go go for run. That isn't why this matters. This matters because they know when the ball is going to be snapped. Whether they run or pass, the d line is coming faster than they normally would otherwise and our o line has to work harder to contain as a result.

Imagine if a d line had to wait and see the ball snapped before attacking? I guarantee we give up less sacks just doing that.
 
In a game where half a second counts. On a forum full of woulda coulda shoulda with last second FGs and/or penalties and 5-1. Why is it now half a second doesn't matter? It matters. No more go and go go. It needs to stop, sorry if you don't like it. But hey blame me because I'm a fan and anyone with FOOTBALL IQ knows it's the fans fault.

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Here are my thoughts on this subject, copy/pasted from one of the other 20+ threads regarding this...

Ren said:
The lack of understanding of basic game management in this thread is confounding.

There are two ways to manage pre-snap - try to confuse the hell out of them (see P. Manning), or dangle the obvious in front of them and use it against them if they take the bait.

Yes, you keep the count the same. By doing so, you dare the defense to react on it. If you catch them anticipating a play based off your count, then and only then do you trick them with it. With that said, these defenses aren't dumb. They know that it can and will be used against them, so they don't react.

This is similar to running the same plays out of the same formation. Let's take the I formation. Every time you line up in the I you run. Does that mean that the defense is going to put 11 men in the box because they "know" you are going to run? No. Even if you've ran out of the I 100 times, they are still going to be prepared for the pass as well. Lining up in the I doesn't tip them off. If they are dumb enough to think your formation means run only, they you've got them right where you want them.

The exact same thing applies to the count. If the defense is dumb enough to react, then you've got them right where you want them.

Bottom line - NOTHING is being given away with the snap count the way it is, because the defense isn't playing the snap count.
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