Gase’s Schematic Ability.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Phinatic8u, May 16, 2018.

  1. Phinatic8u

    Phinatic8u Adam ****ing Gase Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Nov 2008
    Messages:
    16,481
    Likes Received:
    2,697
    Trophy Points:
    113


    I said this as soon as the year ended and it was reported Landry wanted a sky high salary.

    Gase is a schematic superstar.
     
  2. ANUFan

    ANUFan FinHeaven VIP Finheaven VIP Donator

    Joined:
    Jul 2010
    Messages:
    8,909
    Likes Received:
    1,171
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Landry is one heck of a player and if you can get paid like he did then get it.

    But with that said let's not act like Gase and company didn't scheme to his strengths.

    It's going to be really interesting to see what the receiving group looks like without the focal point being Landry.
     
  3. FSU Truth

    FSU Truth Taggart is my Homeboy Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Oct 2013
    Messages:
    10,557
    Likes Received:
    2,552
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just wait until you see what he does with a true mismatch like Gesicki...
     
    nick1, Beach Bum 91, tay0365 and 11 others like this.
  4. Danny

    Danny Finheaven VIP Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Apr 2003
    Messages:
    20,581
    Likes Received:
    5,110
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm very high on Gesicki too but I also can't wait to see what Amendola can do inside the 20's for us. The guy knows how to get open and has great hands too
     
    maralieus, cullenbigcstill and Ray R like this.
  5. finmann

    finmann Pro Bowler Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Jan 2005
    Messages:
    4,809
    Likes Received:
    1,425
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Excellent point....we'll see.
     
    Ray R likes this.
  6. ANUFan

    ANUFan FinHeaven VIP Finheaven VIP Donator

    Joined:
    Jul 2010
    Messages:
    8,909
    Likes Received:
    1,171
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Let’s all pray that Tanne and the OL holds up. If they do then this has the potential to be a very exciting team offensively.
     
  7. Travis34

    Travis34 chea Finheaven VIP Donator

    Joined:
    Aug 2008
    Messages:
    12,938
    Likes Received:
    1,782
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yep Gase knows how to get people open.

    But then we have the negative nancies on here trying to tell us he has a bad offensive scheme and doesn’t get players open. Even with cutler as the qb we saw tons of plays left on the field, and that’s with a dialed back offense. That’s one way to tell if someone’s has any clue or not what they are talking about
     
    tay0365, number1fin and Ray R like this.
  8. 39wildman

    39wildman A True Fan

    Joined:
    Jan 2008
    Messages:
    1,772
    Likes Received:
    170
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I will say this I thought adam gase was real good in 2016. 2017 he didn't look good. he made some bad choice with players as well...2018 will give me all info I need on Adam...
     
  9. Martel13

    Martel13 Since '84 Super Donator

    Joined:
    Feb 2011
    Messages:
    2,439
    Likes Received:
    372
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Always been a believer in Gase schematically. Really hoping he has these guys ready to come out hot at the beginning of the year and we don't dig a hole early. We open the season with 3 winnable games lets get em!
     
    Ray R and FinaticalFinfan like this.
  10. Csonked Out

    Csonked Out FinHeaven VIP Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Mar 2013
    Messages:
    1,536
    Likes Received:
    1,334
    Trophy Points:
    113
    keep in mind who we had at QB last year. I think a lot of the issues were directly related to Cutler. There were a lot of plays left on the field last year that you can directly point to Jay on.
     
    Ray R likes this.
  11. 39wildman

    39wildman A True Fan

    Joined:
    Jan 2008
    Messages:
    1,772
    Likes Received:
    170
    Trophy Points:
    63
    yes u have point on cutler. but it was not all on cutler
     
  12. Superself

    Superself If you want to, we can supply you. Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 2002
    Messages:
    5,734
    Likes Received:
    876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Would just like to see more early scores from Gase. Hopefully the new additions will improve on first quarter scoring.
     
    JAKEIII and Ray R like this.
  13. phintim

    phintim Seasoned Veteran

    Joined:
    May 2007
    Messages:
    6,139
    Likes Received:
    550
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I agree with your opinion regarding Gases coaching strength schematically its the entire head coaching package that is a concern. Do we have a really good head coach or a really good offensive coordinator who happens to be the head coach.
     
    JAKEIII, Yessir and Martel13 like this.
  14. Danny

    Danny Finheaven VIP Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Apr 2003
    Messages:
    20,581
    Likes Received:
    5,110
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What I'm most excited about is the balance that we can have. We have the WR's and now we have the TE too but we also have 3 RB's that can run and catch out of the back field. The key really is for the O-line to stay healthy and play well together. As long as the O-line plays well then we'll be fine cause we have enough good skill players and Tannehill can make all the trows except when he's on his back. Give him time with the weapons we have and we'll be fine.
     
    BSQ, Ray R, EJay and 3 others like this.
  15. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla A True Fan

    Joined:
    Apr 2017
    Messages:
    1,126
    Likes Received:
    1,052
    Trophy Points:
    113
  16. Tiko377

    Tiko377 A True Fan

    Joined:
    Aug 2009
    Messages:
    3,884
    Likes Received:
    519
    Trophy Points:
    113
  17. andyahs

    andyahs Bahamian Redneck Finheaven VIP Donator

    Joined:
    Jul 2005
    Messages:
    7,959
    Likes Received:
    2,331
    Trophy Points:
    113
  18. maralieus

    maralieus Lets get those balls deep!!

    Joined:
    Mar 2006
    Messages:
    5,016
    Likes Received:
    405
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I have a feeling Landry’s numbers are about to drop through the floor.
     
    PhishyPhishy, outlawd2u and rickd13 like this.
  19. maralieus

    maralieus Lets get those balls deep!!

    Joined:
    Mar 2006
    Messages:
    5,016
    Likes Received:
    405
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I think a lot of that was conservative play calling in the early stages of the game. Usually Gase liked to get the ball to Landry because he played with passion and got the team fired up. That’s a lack of on field leadership if you need to do that to get your offense engaged. Teams knew they were looking to Landry early and the offense sputtered until they got behind and were forced to open it up more. Same pattern nearly every game. Who knows what this year will bring!?
     
  20. Vaark

    Vaark Nihil taurus crappus Finheaven VIP Donator

    Joined:
    Apr 2007
    Messages:
    25,161
    Likes Received:
    3,266
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Wouldn't it be something if Wilson's production ends up outperforming Landry's?

    After all, the perspective of time has shown that it was Tannehill who got Hartline, Bess and Clay paid, does it not?
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2018
  21. Ray R

    Ray R FinHeaven VIP Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    May 2017
    Messages:
    697
    Likes Received:
    1,093
    Trophy Points:
    93
    We have both in one package. Ask AJ.
     
  22. D0lphan72

    D0lphan72 War... War never changes Finheaven VIP Donator

    Joined:
    Dec 2009
    Messages:
    3,588
    Likes Received:
    180
    Trophy Points:
    63
    In all fairness. I would say Bess definitely performed before Tannehill got here.
     
    Yessir likes this.
  23. outlawd2u

    outlawd2u Pro Bowler

    Joined:
    Jul 2004
    Messages:
    4,673
    Likes Received:
    541
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I've always felt as though Landry wasn't the type of player you should be trying to force feed the ball and run your offense through. He'd be best served and would make bigger plays being the 2nd or 3rd option with opposing defenses not being able to focus on him. 100+ catches with under 1,000 yards and no td's over 10 yards is hard to do... Idk for sure but I can't imagine that's ever happened before. The thing is... it didn't really work either. I think we can all agree Landry is a really good player, but I think our offense is really going to take off without him provided we ditch the 20+ passes per game within 5 yards of the LOS strategy.
     
    miami365 likes this.
  24. ChrisTRD

    ChrisTRD A True Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 2010
    Messages:
    1,986
    Likes Received:
    389
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I just realized out of Landry, Hartline, Bess and Clay.. 3 of the 4 ended up in Cleveland and 2 of them basically had zero career after.
     
    Fintastic2124, Vaark and PhinsAAA like this.
  25. Danny

    Danny Finheaven VIP Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Apr 2003
    Messages:
    20,581
    Likes Received:
    5,110
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well, I'm totally fine that we moved on from Landry and I give lots of credit to Gase for getting Landry open but I also like to be fair. Landry still had to catch the passes and get in the end zone. I agree that our offense should be better from now on with more balance but Landry's gone so we should just let it go and focus on the players that we have now and root for them to do well.
     
  26. fansinceGWilson

    fansinceGWilson FinHeaven VIP Finheaven VIP Donator

    Joined:
    Mar 2016
    Messages:
    3,231
    Likes Received:
    929
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Don't count on it. There are people still venting about Matt Ryan
     
    Danny likes this.
  27. Agua

    Agua Fighting the media, one lie at a time

    Joined:
    Mar 2002
    Messages:
    6,491
    Likes Received:
    138
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Heh.
     
  28. Bowzer

    Bowzer Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2017
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    116
    Trophy Points:
    33
    I’m very curious to see if the WR screens will actually be successful with Wilson. That’s definitely one of his strengths.
     
  29. Albert Romano

    Albert Romano Super Donator Super Donator Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Dec 2010
    Messages:
    16,463
    Likes Received:
    5,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Depends on if we ever get an OL that can actually execute them correctly. Stills and Parker blocking abilities are much to write home about either.
     
  30. Eesti

    Eesti Rookie Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Apr 2008
    Messages:
    3,647
    Likes Received:
    836
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We still haven't seen Adam Gase's full offense. We saw a glimpse of what it could be in the second part of 2016 but even then they were still learning and implementing more into it week by week. Then they started over with Matt Moore in week 13.

    Fast forward to 2017 and it still not the offense he wanted to run. He had to change it up from what Ryan Tannehill did well and morph it into what Cutler liked to run.

    It's not just the play caller and QB that have to get in sync but also the OL, receivers and RB's. The receiver group was definitely more comfortable with 17. Parker averaged around 16 ypc with Tannehill ( & Moore for 3 games) and only 11.8 with Cutler. We all know Landry's ypc dropped hy 3.3. Stills has the lowest ypc of his career.

    Most everyone should have a better grasp in 2018 but new receivers, Gesicki, Amendola and Wilson will need to get up to speed.
     
    joenhre likes this.
  31. outlawd2u

    outlawd2u Pro Bowler

    Joined:
    Jul 2004
    Messages:
    4,673
    Likes Received:
    541
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Let's not underestimate how putrid Cutler was last year. I didn't like a lot of the playcalling, but it's no coincidence that every WR's numbers declined when that s***bag of a QB in Cutler took over last season.
     
  32. tay0365

    tay0365 FinHeaven VIP Finheaven VIP Donator

    Joined:
    May 2004
    Messages:
    12,229
    Likes Received:
    969
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Extremely good point.

    All three did look pretty darn good in Miami, only to be at best (Clay) an Ok weapon outside of having a QB like Tannehill.
     
    FinaticalFinfan and Vaark like this.
  33. fansinceGWilson

    fansinceGWilson FinHeaven VIP Finheaven VIP Donator

    Joined:
    Mar 2016
    Messages:
    3,231
    Likes Received:
    929
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Agree with all that, but I think everyone agrees Gase's playcalling early '17 was pretty bad and predictable and taking advantage of mismatches was frustratingly inconsistent. Much better late in the season. If the last few games were the "real" Gase, the O could be fun to watch.
     

Share This Page