GM Candidates Still Confused About Power Structure

[Awsi Dooger]

What top flight candidate would subject themselves to this process? You can say there are only 32 GM jobs in the NFL, but the GM position, like the HC position is on spin cycle, there are always openings and those openings are not created equally. If you have a promising career, if you are a truly competent individual, perhaps even a brilliant individual, you're not even considering this opportunity if only for the opaque nature of the job and the likelihood of failure. The power structure is muddled at best.

Well said. That's what I've been worried about all along, that we need a brilliant guy but he might not want to interview, given the question marks. The sharpest guys pick their spots. That's true everywhere. In politics not every cycle is equal likelihood. Lots of politicians ruins their career simply by choosing the wrong cycle to run. You want the wind at your back, or at least not gusting in your face.

I don't know much about these guys. I could check some videos and articles and make judgments but I'm not sure how reliable they would be. Mostly I'd like an unquestionably smart and articulate guy who doesn't overreact to the most recent item on the plate.

 

[tl77]

another hit piece from the media:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/21/marc-ross-hasnt-interviewed-for-dolphins-job/

At one point during the Dolphins’ process of searching for a new G.M., Giants V.P. of player evaluation Marc Ross reportedly was slated to be interviewed.

He hasn’t. It’s unclear whether he will.

Via Jordan Ranaan of NJ.com, the chatter at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama is that candidates are being steered away from the job.

If true, it’s not a surprise. Multiple candidates have rebuffed the Dolphins, amid persistent talk of dysfunction and competing agendas. The handling of the Davone Bess situation potentially makes the job even less attractive, since the new G.M. will have to change an apparent hardball “gotcha” culture that resulted in the Dolphins reportedly snookering the Browns.

The job of G.M. is hard enough when the organization doesn’t need to be fixed. The degree of difficulty with the Dolphins could make any viable candidates with options opt to do something else.

 

[AL R]

another hit piece from the media:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/21/marc-ross-hasnt-interviewed-for-dolphins-job/

So now its a problem that the former GM pulled off that Bess trade and thats why people dont want to come. We got taken in the BM trade because we didnt know he had a disorder either.

 

[Nublar7]

So now its a problem that the former GM pulled off that Bess trade and thats why people dont want to come. We got taken in the BM trade because we didnt know he had a disorder either.

The articles keep getting more ridiculous. The Dolphins are now being punished for actions from people that don't even work for the team right now.

[video=youtube;bU6m5UqLx9M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU6m5UqLx9M[/video]

 

[tl77]

Ya I don't take much stock into what Omar says, but today he was bringing up a lot of different things, that the Dolphin hate is just ridiculous. Saying that Ross is viewed by the league as clueless and his trusted adviser Peterson is hated throughout the NFL. Also that Miami doesn't play ball with the media, so they get dumped on at any opportunity. Pretty much everything we already knew.

I honestly don't know what it will take other than just winning. This whole off season has really made me sick about the media that covers the NFL. I'm at the point where, **** it, they want us to be the bad guy - let's be the bad guy. Write your hate, spew your garbage, some how some way this team will get it together and give a big collective "**** You" to everyone. I guess if I have to put blind faith into Ross, Philbin, whoever our GM is, then so be it. Because, well, they're on my team, my side. Not saying I won't be critical, but I'm with em.

 

[vt_dolfan]

Ya I don't take much stock into what Omar says, but today he was bringing up a lot of different things, that the Dolphin hate is just ridiculous. Saying that Ross is viewed by the league as clueless and his trusted adviser Peterson is hated throughout the NFL. Also that Miami doesn't play ball with the media, so they get dumped on at any opportunity. Pretty much everything we already knew.

I honestly don't know what it will take other than just winning. This whole off season has really made me sick about the media that covers the NFL. I'm at the point where, **** it, they want us to be the bad guy - let's be the bad guy. Write your hate, spew your garbage, some how some way this team will get it together and give a big collective "**** You" to everyone. I guess if I have to put blind faith into Ross, Philbin, whoever our GM is, then so be it. Because, well, they're on my team, my side. Not saying I won't be critical, but I'm with em.

Amen brotha..right there with you.

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[ohall]

The not playing nice with media stuff is nonsense IMO. The Pats don't play nice with the media and we all know how much the majority of the media loves the Pats.

Until a franchise wins they will always get second guessed and IMO that's fine with me. Until we win this is what we deserve.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

The not playing nice with media stuff is nonsense IMO. The Pats don't play nice with the media and we all know how much the majority of the media loves the Pats.

Until a franchise wins they will always get second guessed and IMO that's fine with me. Until we win this is what we deserve.

Pats are actually more media friendly than the Dolphins. Everyone knows Belichick and Brady from their angry, one-liner, sulking post-game pressers. During the week it's a whole different story. Belichick stands up and answers every question, and he often goes into depth if he's not going to give anything away about his team. For instance, before the Patriots played the Dolphins in one of their meetings this season, Belichick was asked about the Miami defense and went into a fairly detailed response about how Miami likes to use A-Gap pressure and what that involves.

Joe Philbin stands up and says absolutely nothing. A reporter asks him a question and Joe says something like "Well, the coaching staff will make a determination this week when we do our evaluations." And he'll answer maybe five questions like that, say "Thanks, that's it," and walk out after three minutes. End of season press conference? Under ten minutes. Now I understand where he's coming from, because nobody should have to stand up there and listen to Adam "Lurch" Beasley tell them that they aren't doing their job right by refusing to comment on Mike Pouncey's pending grand jury testimony, but let's get real here, the Dolphins don't just have contempt for the press. They've got contempt for the fans with this kind of nonsense.

 

[dlockz]

I am sorry you did not appreciate my write ups. I take painstaking measures to do the best job I can with those. They take me a long time, much to my wife's chagrin. However, I really enjoy the feedback and debate they bring about.

Well even though I may not agree with what you put in your weekly writeup(felt you sometimes had way too many positives to some areas that were not but that's an opinion) I understand flawed or not you took your time and I for one appreciate your viewpoint. Unlike bomabarding us with stats and multistyllabic vocabulary words like another poster. I appreciate his posts to a degree but I do feel he values his stat metric a little too much.
I look at trends because I do a lot of college football betting( pretty good at it because I rarely play anything Im not 100 percent on but I just don't see your metrics as anything I would place my money on esp in evaluating a second year qb with a horrible oline. Personally I think Shouright was a better poster than Gravity because I felt there was more true substance to his posts but that's my opinion

 

[Zounds]

That's what I've been worried about all along, that we need a brilliant guy but he might not want to interview, given the question marks. The sharpest guys pick their spots.

The sharpest guys create their own spots. If a once or twice in a lifetime opportunity presents itself to you, such as an executive position at an NFL franchise, you take it. Regardless of the alleged "power structure", a sharp executive will expand his scope of influence by earning the respect of his peers on the job. It doesn't need to be influence given to you in an employment contract. Maybe a candidate with years of experience at GM could come in and get total control, but no young buck worth a dam gets promoted to an executive and gets handed the keys to the city. It has to be earned at that level. I seriously doubt any potential GM turned down an interview because of the rumors being perpetuated by a couple of shady reporters. Maybe that candidate doesn't want to move (Tom Gamble), or maybe that candidate is already being paid like a GM and is in his club's continuity plan (Eric Decosta).

 

[dlockz]

The sharpest guys create their own spots. If a once or twice in a lifetime opportunity presents itself to you, such as an executive position at an NFL franchise, you take it. Regardless of the alleged "power structure", a sharp executive will expand his scope of influence by earning the respect of his peers on the job. It doesn't need to be influence given to you in an employment contract. Maybe a candidate with years of experience at GM could come in and get total control, but no young buck worth a dam gets promoted to an executive and gets handed the keys to the city. It has to be earned at that level. I seriously doubt any potential GM turned down an interview because of the rumors being perpetuated by a couple of shady reporters. Maybe that candidate doesn't want to move (Tom Gamble), or maybe that candidate is already being paid like a GM and is in his club's continuity plan (Eric Decosta).

I personally think there are some GM canidates that want no part of Miami for some of the reasons that are claimed but not to the extent that is in papers. I don't think the papers have any affect but guys have opinions based on what they have seen. I don't think Decosta would move unless he is given the power that he wants as a GM in the situation to his liking. I do think he is the one GM that probably wants no part of us just because you are basically forced to take on Philbin as a coach. That an opinion supported by nothihg but opinion but why if you are considered by many to be the brightest Gm candidate in the league come into a less than ideal situation.

 

[LANGER72]

Ross needs to make it clear publicly and structurally that dawn Aponte is not running the team and she reports to the GM. She should report to Philbin as well.

 

[Zounds]

Ross needs to make it clear publicly and structurally that dawn Aponte is not running the team and she reports to the GM. She should report to Philbin as well.

He already released a statement claiming what you are asking for.

 

[Zounds]

I do think he is the one GM that probably wants no part of us just because you are basically forced to take on Philbin as a coach. That an opinion supported by nothihg but opinion but why if you are considered by many to be the brightest Gm candidate in the league come into a less than ideal situation.

Exactly, that theory is not supported by anything. We know Decosta is being paid like a GM already, and will be taking over for Newsome when he retires. If I were him, I wouldn't uproot my family for a job that pays the same and is 1000 miles away. He didn't interview with Tampa either, and that job is being reported as a "final say" job.

 

[dlockz]

Exactly, that theory is not supported by anything. We know Decosta is being paid like a GM already, and will be taking over for Newsome when he retires. If I were him, I wouldn't uproot my family for a job that pays the same and is 1000 miles away. He didn't interview with Tampa either, and that job is being reported as a "final say" job.

I don't think either job looks attractive to him but we could always offer to pay him more than Baltimore. Make him the highest paid Gm in the league. regardless he declined to interview for our job so the reasons don't really matter. He is one of the few guys that probably can be super selective about choosing his job because he is so well respected.