Go, Go Go

[So Be]

LMAO. OK bro. THIS will NOT give the defense a CLUE of what we're doing. It is SO freakin obvious that it literally disturbs me that people do not get it. WOW. I've been around football LITERALLY all my life. This is something, as a coach or player, that you would look for as an advantage. How could it NOT be? Seriously? Okay one Go is a pass, two go's are a run. You and OTHERS are trying to convince me that this DOES NOT put us at some level of a disadvantage? That's honestly hilarious.

Again, as I have asked, and you have watched games multiple times, just give me an example of what you are talking about? How hard is that to do in place of going round and round.

As I said, I re-watched the last 2 games, and saw nothing.

 

[DuderinoN703]

GO GO: Okay, this is a run. We can bring a safety up for help and the LBs know they have no worries in coverage on TEs and can attack the gaps. NOT an issue? Please folks. Think about it. I could go even deeper than this, but if this doesn't get the point across then NOTHING will.

How are you going to bring up the safety when Tannehill snaps the ball immediately after saying GO GO? There is no time to bring anyone anywhere!

Explain to me then how Lamar Miller was able to gain 89 yards on 18 carries and Daniel Thomas gained 47 yards on 9 carries (combined YPC of 5) if the GO-GO is an abomination?

 

[roy_miami]

LMAO. OK bro. THIS will NOT give the defense a CLUE of what we're doing. It is SO freakin obvious that it literally disturbs me that people do not get it. WOW. I've been around football LITERALLY all my life. This is something, as a coach or player, that you would look for as an advantage. How could it NOT be? Seriously? Okay one Go is a pass, two go's are a run. You and OTHERS are trying to convince me that this DOES NOT put us at some level of a disadvantage? That's honestly hilarious.

The guys on our side have been too and have won Superbowls...

 

[DuderinoN703]

EXACT PLAYS? Really? That's the thing. You don't have to KNOW the EXACT play to know you don't have to respect one aspect of the offense. It is a huge assist for the defense. To think otherwise just blows my mind.

See my other comment

 

[DuderinoN703]

Some seem to be confused on the Go's being the snap, as opposed to telling the D what is coming before that.

Yes. And even if you know it's a run coming up, you as a defender still have to shed your block and make the tackle. How could Miami have averaged 5 yards a carry if the cadence is so awful?

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LMAO. OK bro. THIS will NOT give the defense a CLUE of what we're doing. It is SO freakin obvious that it literally disturbs me that people do not get it. WOW. I've been around football LITERALLY all my life. This is something, as a coach or player, that you would look for as an advantage. How could it NOT be? Seriously? Okay one Go is a pass, two go's are a run. You and OTHERS are trying to convince me that this DOES NOT put us at some level of a disadvantage? That's honestly hilarious.

If any of what you're saying is true why would the Dolphins continue to have that cadence? Honestly......and don't say it's b/c Philbin sucks, Ireland sucks, etc.

 

[So Be]

Yes. And even if you know it's a run coming up, you as a defender still have to shed your block and make the tackle. How could Miami have averaged 5 yards a carry if the cadence is so awful?

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If any of what you're saying is true why would the Dolphins continue to have that cadence? Honestly......and don't say it's b/c Philbin sucks, Ireland sucks, etc.

All I'm asking for is someone, anyone, to show me a play or two where it mattered. I took the time to watch two games, and saw nothing, and not watching anymore over senseless nitpicking.

 

[Phinatic8u]

LMAO. OK bro. THIS will NOT give the defense a CLUE of what we're doing. It is SO freakin obvious that it literally disturbs me that people do not get it. WOW. I've been around football LITERALLY all my life. This is something, as a coach or player, that you would look for as an advantage. How could it NOT be? Seriously? Okay one Go is a pass, two go's are a run. You and OTHERS are trying to convince me that this DOES NOT put us at some level of a disadvantage? That's honestly hilarious.

You think you've the only one been around football there whole life?

If what your saying is true, how come our running game has actually produced these past few weeks? How do we even get a first down? It's not a big of a deal, your trying to make it a big deal there's nothing there..

So me where Tannehill saying go or go go has actually put us at a disadvantage? I'll be waiting. It's basically the same as a defense being in cover 2, I can look at the tv and say "Well the d is in cover 2". Explain to me how that doesn't benefit an offense?

 

[rkr8619]

All I'm asking for is someone, anyone, to show me a play or two where it mattered. I took the time to watch two games, and saw nothing, and not watching anymore over senseless nitpicking.

what your asking for is impossible to show. No one can prove a 1 yard loss wouldve been a 3 yard gain with a different cadence, that our oline wouldve done a better job against their dline.

Thats like saying show me just 1 time where Lebron was at the free throw line thinking about his kids opposed to flying unicorns.

All we have here is deductive reasoning and it doesnt make sense opposing defenses dont benefit from knowing whats coming.

Ill talk later, g2g

 

[mr ed]

What people aren't understanding is that it has nothing to do with tipping the snap count. We're tipping the freaking play. I played middle linebacker and have coached for over ten years in youth and high school. I agree with previous poster about not having to read my keys because the qb is handing me the information. This is a huge advantage to lb,s and de,s in my opinion. One go drop back, or pass rush. Two gos, go kill the one running back in the backfield. I think teams are picking this up and using it in the second half when they realize that we have not gone away from this count for even one play. If we were using it 90 percent of the time I would be okay with it. But folks it is 100 percent of the time.... No exceptions to the rule...100 percent. I also don't think it's taught I think it's just in tannys head and needs to be repped.

 

[Phindog]

:idk:

[video=youtube;xMaE6toi4mk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMaE6toi4mk[/video]

 

[So Be]

what your asking for is impossible to show. No one can prove a 1 yard loss wouldve been a 3 yard gain with a different cadence, that our oline wouldve done a better job against their dline.

Thats like saying show me just 1 time where lebron was at the free throw line thinking about his kids opposed to flying unicorns.

All we have here is deductive reasoning and it doesnt make sense opposing defenses dont benefit from knowing whats coming.

Ill talk later, g2g

lol

 

[roy_miami]

What people aren't understanding is that it has nothing to do with tipping the snap count. We're tipping the freaking play. I played middle linebacker and have coached for over ten years in youth and high school. I agree with previous poster about not having to read my keys because the qb is handing me the information. This is a huge advantage to lb,s and de,s in my opinion. One go drop back, or pass rush. Two gos, go kill the one running back in the backfield. I think teams are picking this up and using it in the second half when they realize that we have not gone away from this count for even one play. If we were using it 90 percent of the time I would be okay with it. But folks it is 100 percent of the time.... No exceptions to the rule...100 percent. I also don't think it's taught I think it's just in tannys head and needs to be repped.

Of course the defenses are figuring it out in the second halves now because that just happens to be where we're struggling of late. If you really believe that you're not giving defensive coordinators very much credit.

 

[SCall13]

Yes. And even if you know it's a run coming up, you as a defender still have to shed your block and make the tackle. How could Miami have averaged 5 yards a carry if the cadence is so awful?

Well, obviously, NE isn't great against the run AND this is the FIRST game that we looked really good running the ball. Also, you will notice that the running game was non-existent in the 2nd half. And the defense was able to tee off on us. WHY? Because they KNEW we weren't running because they consistently only heard ONE GO.
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If any of what you're saying is true why would the Dolphins continue to have that cadence? Honestly......and don't say it's b/c Philbin sucks, Ireland sucks, etc.

I don't put blame on anyone. I have never started, or EVEN COMMENTED in a thread that calls coaches or GMs out. MAYBE with the exception of Sherman's tendency to go away from the running game or abandon it all together way too early in the game.

I am NOT saying that defense is let on to the EXACT run or pass play we're trying to execute. But it is SO OBVIOUS that they are let on to what they DO NOT have to be concerned about. How can you NOT see that? It's amazing to me. They are clued BY the go or GO GO, to immediately thereafter, concern themselves with one or the other. There IS an issue here. To not understand that is beyond me. I played QB for more than TWENTY years and I can NOT imagine giving the defense this much of a clue. The snap count NEEDS to be changed. The way you CALL it needs to be changed. IT DOES keep the defense off balance. And IT DOES disallow them from KNOWING what is coming. Give me another REASON that we have lost fumbles, thrown more INTS, given up MORE sacks late in games than earlier. NOT saying that these problems haven't reared their ugly heads early in games (FOR THE REASONS I have STATED). But the defense is coming full on later in the game because they have been put into a comfortable position KNOWING what each snap count MEANS.

Now, please refute THAT.

 

[SCall13]

I can promise you, and not being arrogant about, that I have a LOT of experience at QB and football in general. I am NOT just an average guy posting thoughtless crap. This IS a concern that needs to be addressed. I was HOPEFUL that it would be something that we fixed to throw the Patsies off, but it wasn't. I was disappointed. Even my WIFE, who HATED me playing football has noticed it. She brought it up this past Sunday BEFORE I did! I laughed and said, "I hope this doesn't come back and bite us later in the game." I was feeling pretty confident after putting up a nice comfy 14 point lead. But the problem DID hit us and I had this discussion with my wife in a nutshell after it was 17-10: "If we do not do SOMETHING about changing the snap count, we will NOT win this game. They are keying on, just like Bills did and it is an issue that was resolved as one of their halftime adjustments."

Guess what? We lost 27-17. Why because most of the sack HAPPENED in the second half because of "Go." The big fumble happened. Why? Because No one on the defense respected the run because they did NOT HEAR the cadence to make them respect it. It's elementary and disturbing.

 

[roy_miami]

Try this: Put the tape on, put the TV on mute and just focus on the left tackle and tell me how quickly you diagnose pass vs run.