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Good quarterbacking is innate.

Nawledge said:
all I said was he can't help tannehill out. and I also stated tannehill isn't blameless. Wallace is a one trick pony who runs poor routes and can't catch with his hands and he's soft. how was I wrong about any of that?
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Obviously, your analysis is completely wrong. You say Wallace is a "one-trick pony", but this is demonstrably false. I assume you're saying his "one trick" is getting deep? Well, I hate to break it to you, but he had 73 catches this season, and because Tannehill could not hit him deep with any consistency, the overwhelming majority of his catches were short throws. He only averaged 13.3 yards per catch. So, he contributed 73 catches, 5 TDs, and almost 1,000 yards without ever really succeeding at his "one trick".

I never saw a significant problem with his route-running this season. I saw him runs tons of routes where he was wide open and Tannehill missed him.
 
Matt Stafford throws for a gazillion yards every year and has his share of TD's too.

And guess what? I think he sucks to. It's more than the numbers. It's the lack of consistency. Both he and Tannehill leave points on the board, and make critical errors in key situations more often than not.

It's why their teams are on the outside looking in every year.
 
ForksPhin said:
Obviously, your analysis is completely wrong. You say Wallace is a "one-trick pony", but this is demonstrably false. I assume you're saying his "one trick" is getting deep? Well, I hate to break it to you, but he had 73 catches this season, and because Tannehill could not hit him deep with any consistency, the overwhelming majority of his catches were short throws. He only averaged 13.3 yards per catch. So, he contributed 73 catches, 5 TDs, and almost 1,000 yards without ever really succeeding at his "one trick".

I never saw a significant problem with his route-running this season. I saw him runs tons of routes where he was wide open and Tannehill missed him.
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Did you also see him drop passes that hit him in the hands? Why don't you mention that?
 
dolpns13 said:
whats the point of this post? Do you feel sorry for yourself also because ill tell you something; regardless of what you want, or what I want, or what anyone wants, Tannehill WILL BE our starting QB next year. Thats a fact. So you do possess the ability to feel sorry for yourself since you will have to watch Tannehill play. We bette all hope and pray he gets better and works on his non-existent deep ball
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That's the thing with these jackasses! They make post after post about how Tannehill sucks and needs to be replaced. They thump their chests with I told you so's or you heard it here first. They try ever so hard to be heard. To what.... Make the rest of the fans give up and agree with them??? What good will that do??? It won't get Tannehill replaced. Shoot if fan's opinions mattered, Ireland would have been gone years ago.

So what is the point of making hundreds if posts arguing that Tannehill sucks? Is is free therapy, too much conservative talk radio, or is it as simple as misery really does love company? I really want to know what you get out of all this effort.
 
Yessir said:
82 QBR. 17 INTS, and 9 fumbles on the year.

That's not good to me. Guess I have higher expectations. Matt Moore did an 87 QBR in 2011.
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And that was in Moore's 5th year, hell the guy couldn't even lock up a starting job in SC.
 
So all of those wins in the 4th quarter...and wins against top QBs in this league are not an it factor? Haters gonna hate. It's all Ryans's fault, his receivers sure as hell didn't have any key drops in the last 2 games....and the line has not been an issue all year. It's his fault we can't stop the run game too!
 
67Stang said:
So all of those wins in the 4th quarter...and wins against top QBs in this league are not an it factor? Haters gonna hate. It's all Ryans's fault, his receivers sure as hell didn't have any key drops in the last 2 games....and the line has not been an issue all year. It's his fault we can't stop the run game too!
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Change Ryan's to Chad's and Im sure you made this same statement a few years ago.
 
Yessir said:
Spot on.

Look at Bress, Manning, Rogers, and Brady. The elite four in the league. Now imagine if these dudes were robots emotionally. You think there teams would have the success they've had? Not a chance. That **** matters.
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It's impossible to argue with the ignorant.

Brees was labeled a bust in San Diego and frankly wasn't that good there. His ratings varied from 67 to 104 and that was with LT at RB.

Manning is an exception to every rule. He is great plain and simple.

Brady sat on the bench a year, he played his second year and had rather average QB numbers. He didn't break 90% QBR until his 5th year in the league and didn't break 4000 yards till his 5th season.

Rodgers sat on the bench until his 4th year in the league, he can't be used to argue anything.

Frankly Tannehill is easily neck and neck at the very least with three of those you mention.
 
ForksPhin said:
Obviously, your analysis is completely wrong. You say Wallace is a "one-trick pony", but this is demonstrably false. I assume you're saying his "one trick" is getting deep? Well, I hate to break it to you, but he had 73 catches this season, and because Tannehill could not hit him deep with any consistency, the overwhelming majority of his catches were short throws. He only averaged 13.3 yards per catch. So, he contributed 73 catches, 5 TDs, and almost 1,000 yards without ever really succeeding at his "one trick".

I never saw a significant problem with his route-running this season. I saw him runs tons of routes where he was wide open and Tannehill missed him.
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I also said in that thread that he ran 3 routes most of the time and the other 2 being comeback routes and out patterns. I also don't have coaches film to see what he runs every play. I'm talking about balls he caught.

also did Wallace throw those passes to himself? tannehill gets blamed for missed deep balls but no credit for the 73 he did complete to him? it was all Wallace...
 
dabeastdabone said:
It's impossible to argue with the ignorant.

Brees was labeled a bust in San Diego and frankly wasn't that good there. His ratings varied from 67 to 104 and that was with LT at RB.

Manning is an exception to every rule. He is great plain and simple.

Brady sat on the bench a year, he played his second year and had rather average QB numbers. He didn't break 90% QBR until his 5th year in the league and didn't break 4000 yards till his 5th season.

Rodgers sat on the bench until his 4th year in the league, he can't be used to argue anything.

Frankly Tannehill is easily neck and neck at the very least with three of those you mention.
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Yessir said:
And allow me to say this. I hope I'm entirely wrong on all this. I hope this thread can be bumped come
next year this time around, and Tannehill has an MVP caliber campaign and we're a legit playoff team. And I'll gladly eat all types of crow.

But I'm 99% sure I'm right. Good quarterbacks don't play as awful as Tannehill did these last couple weeks with everything on the line. They just don't.

Did y'all just see what Aaron Rogers just did against the Bears? LOL.
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The issue in my opinion is Tannehill would be much better and further along in his development if he was able to hit the deep ball to wallace like it needs to be. People will tell you that his deep ball is in line with the league average but they fail to understand that that number is pure bs from the standpoint it doesn't take ball placement into account. It doesn't take into account which balls should have been an easy touchdown. It also doesn't take into account the ability of the wideout to bail out his qb.

If Tannehill hits 40% of his deep throws to a wide open wallace, we are in the playoffs, this thread won't be made and he has 30 td's this year about about 6 less interceptions. If he can fix this issue, he will make the jump to the next level as his short to intermediate game is pretty solid. He can be a starting qb but if he doesn't clean up that part of this game then hel will need to have the right supporting cast, and he will remain a 15-20 qb.
 
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