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Hartline: martin shared voicemail around lockeroom & laughed about it w team

We played credit card roulette all the time in grad school when we went out at the end of the week. If someone didn't want to participate, we either didn't do it, or we had them just pay their part of the tab and we spun on the rest. I never went in for that thing, I'm no sucker.

Credit card roulette is bullying now... yeah, this thing has reached total bizarro world here.
 
Ive done a 180 on this. I want Cogs playing Monday night.
 
Spesh said:
I was trying to track down Incognito's dad to get so i can hear more sobbing and excuses from his son. Sorry im late.

Laughing my ass off at those that think this is a silver bullet. What did this accomplish? Just gave more evidence that Martin felt pressured to conform to a standard they established.

If this were to go to court(it wont), a judge would give the physical evidence a lot more weight then some story about Martin gritting his teeth while smiling when surrounded by his those committing the crime.
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The fact of the matter is Martin is a terrible teammate. He threw his entire team under a bus and will now be ostracized the rest if his short NFL career no matter who wins this frivolous stand off.

Either way he has opened himself up to public ridicule at this point for how he handled this situation. He has a mountain to climb emotionally to ever think about playing again because he will never accepted in an NFL locker room. Nobody wants to go to battle with a chump they can't trust,
 
flynryan15 said:
Big difference between picking up a tab and being forced to pay a $30,000 dinner bill.
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For the record, I think the whole thing where they do stuff like take Tannehill's credit card and buy jetskis, making rookies split expensive dinner tabs, etc. is ****ty. I thought it was ****ty when I read about what happened to Ryan Leaf years ago, even though I think Ryan Leaf was a colossal douchebag. I thought it was ****ty that they did it to Dez, and I think it's ****ty that Will Davis and several other guys had to split that tab.

If anything comes out of this, I hope the NFL mandates putting a stop to that.
 
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LDaniel7 said:
What Cogs did was child's play -- I mean freekin' diapers -- to the toughening and testing that goes on in some units.

And, truth be told, it has created some of the most elite fighting forces known in history.

Which, Congress and current U.S. Gov are doing all within their power to destroy. No accident that 200 officers (and counting) have been fired by the current Divider-in-Chief. Politically correct forces want to turn the military into a social engineering product. I've learned some inside directives that would chill the bones of every red-blooded American. Beyond sad. And the dominant media is 100 percent in this re-imagining narrative.

This thing w. Cogs is really reflective of a socially engineered society that is making it a crime to be a manly man.

LD
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Everything up until your last line was fine - then you had to hold Richie Incognito up as the poster boy for your cause. :lol: Of all the people in the world, why on earth would you pick a mouth-breathing, almost universally hated jerk and doofus as an example of a "manly man"??

If Richie Incognito wasn't in the NFL, he'd be in jail. I'm all for the anti-feminization of our military and culture in general, but please do not disgrace that noble cause by associating it with Richie Incognito. :rolleyes2:
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
For the record, I think the whole thing where they do stuff like take Tannehill's credit card and buy jetskis, making rookies split expensive dinner tabs, etc. is ****ty. I thought it was ****ty when I read about what happened to Ryan Leaf years ago, even though I think Ryan Leaf was a colossal douchebag. I thought it was ****ty that they did it to Dez, and I think it's ****ty that Will Davis and several other guys had to split that tab.

If anything comes out of this, I hope the NFL mandates putting a stop to that.
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It is ****ty. If anything the vets with big pay checks like Wake and Wallace should be covering the tab for the rookies to welcome them to the team. Most rookies arent making millions.
 
jtsacksyou said:
It is ****ty. If anything the vets with big pay checks like Wake and Wallace should be covering the tab for the rookies to welcome them to the team. Most rookies arent making millions.
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Yup, agreed. And as I said, I really hope this incident leads to a change in this particular type of behavior.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Because if you can place the blame on a dysfunctional relationship between two men -- who are members of the players union -- you can protect the NFL, the way the NFL is run, and the way teams go about their business.

Who knows what will happen? But I do think that the NFL has an interest here in making sure the entire Dolphins organization isn't imploded -- because 31 other NFL teams run the same damn type of ship.
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Got it, thx.
 
Let me once again remind everyone... there is a LOT more information to come. It's far from over.

This should teach us all not to pass any judgement yet.
 
Nope, you are wrong.

@AbramsonPBP: Harltine on voice mail: "If I'm not mistaken, (Martin) is the same guy who was laughing about this voice mail at one point in time."
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J. David Wannyheimer said:
For the record, I think the whole thing where they do stuff like take Tannehill's credit card and buy jetskis, making rookies split expensive dinner tabs, etc. is ****ty. I thought it was ****ty when I read about what happened to Ryan Leaf years ago, even though I think Ryan Leaf was a colossal douchebag. I thought it was ****ty that they did it to Dez, and I think it's ****ty that Will Davis and several other guys had to split that tab.

If anything comes out of this, I hope the NFL mandates putting a stop to that.
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I don't have any problem with this if its a one time thing. Its a right of passage for the high draft picks, the people they are paying for have all done it in the past and they'll recoup what they pay from rookies in the future. PLUS, its kind of a ****ed up work environment where you had some rookies making up to 100 times more than some respected vets (before the new CBA).
 
finz99 said:
What? This is great, they are fired up and ready to literally hit anything in front of them. I'm excited for monday.
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It certainly worked for the Pats when BB was caught in the Spygate scandal. Sometimes an us against the world mentality galvanizes the team.
 
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