Has Philbin Won Back Miami Phans?

[SkapePhin]

If we're gonna fault coaches for not knowing where players are all the time, how does Bill Bellichek do when his player murders someone?

Was Hernandez fining several Patriots' players for not attending his gangbanger activities?

 

[MD]

Incognito fined teammates for not showing up... It was a team function. You can try to explain it away all you want, but if he was on Philbin's radar for sexual harassment, he damn well should have been aware of something like this where the sexual harasser is requiring that several players attend meetings in an establishment where sexual impropriety is very likely to occur.

So what if Incognito fined them. It doesn't make it a team function. Do you not understand the difference between official and unofficial?

The team event at the golf course where Incognito assaulted the female was an official function. It has been reported that Philbin wanted to cut Incognito but was overruled. If true, Philbin took the correct steps and the chain of command above him failed. We don't know who did what in terms of accountability but if Philbin opted to take no action, he's as guilty as Ireland, Ross and any NFL official who was aware of the incident.

 

[Sirspud]

Was Hernandez fining several Patriots' players for not attending his gangbanger activities?

No, just killing arena players who weren't.

 

[Sirspud]

The Panthers still had a timeout left and they weren't rushing at all in our red zone on that final drive, why do you think that is? Our clock management did not cause the TD or help them in any way, if they wanted to call running plays they had plenty of time and a timeout. What I saw was they were actively trying to take as much time off the clock as possible while scoring as many points as possible and we were trying to make sure the opposite happened, which is what we were supposed to be doing.

Funny, I thought the Panthers might have not been rushing because they didn't have to. Probably because the clock was stopped repeatedly any time when that may have been an issue.

 

[SkapePhin]

So you have the leader of your OL requiring that players attend meetings to discuss team matters at local strip joints and you think coaches should have no idea about this?

Knowing that the leader the OL group is a raging alcoholic who stuck a gold club up a female volunteer's skirt, not a single coach inquired about the OL's meetings or interactions with Incognito?

If Philbin or the coaches had any qualms about his behavior, they sure as heck forgot about it quickly as they didn't appear to ever follow-up on any of his behavior or activities after that moment...

 

[roy_miami]

Funny, I thought the Panthers might have not been rushing because they didn't have to. Probably because the clock was stopped repeatedly any time when that may have been an issue.

Both teams had 1 timeout left on 3rd and 2 from Miami's 21 with 1:29 left on the clock, they called a run and picked up the first down, 30 seconds goes off the clock and they call another run. If time was so precious to them why didn't they call a timeout? Why are they calling running plays?

If we would have stopped them on that 3rd and 2 we would have gotten the ball back with about 1:20 left needing just a field goal to win, if we pulled it off Philbin would have been praised for his excellent clock management.

 

[Sirspud]

Both teams had 1 timeout left on 3rd and 2 from Miami's 21 with 1:29 left on the clock, they called a run and picked up the first down, 30 seconds goes off the clock and they call another run. If time was so precious to them why didn't they call a timeout? Why are they calling running plays?

It's so obvious a child could understand but I guess I will have to right it out. Because our stoppage of the clock two times previously meant that they in fact had ample time to do whatever they wanted. In fact, you are making my point for me by showing how our clock stoppage opened up the Panthers full playbook, instead of having to call plays dictated by the clock.

 

[roy_miami]

It's so obvious only a retard could understand

Maybe.

Your logic is just bizarre, 1:46 and a timeout from the 30 yard line is ample time to do what you want anyway.

And if we stopped them on the 3rd and 2 and gotten the ball back with 1:20 left needing just a field goal for the win would you still have a problem with the clock management?

 

[MD]

So you have the leader of your OL requiring that players attend meetings to discuss team matters at local strip joints and you think coaches should have no idea about this?

Knowing that the leader the OL group is a raging alcoholic who stuck a gold club up a female volunteer's skirt, not a single coach inquired about the OL's meetings or interactions with Incognito?

If Philbin or the coaches had any qualms about his behavior, they sure as heck forgot about it quickly as they didn't appear to ever follow-up on any of his behavior or activities after that moment...

I doubt the intent of the meeting was to discuss team matters. And your making assumptions as to follow up or lack there of.

When you were growing up did you do or go places that your parents would have frowned upon? I know I did and the majority of kids do. Does that make the parents bad parents? No of course not. If Incognito and the OL want to spend an evening on the town they certainly don't need to clear it with the boss before going.

I suppose the off season trip to Vegas that everyone on the OL attended, except Martin, makes that an official team function?

 

[SkapePhin]

I doubt the intent of the meeting was to discuss team matters. And your making assumptions as to follow up or lack there of.

When you were growing up did you do or go places that your parents would have frowned upon? I know I did and the majority of kids do. Does that make the parents bad parents? No of course not. If Incognito and the OL want to spend an evening on the town they certainly don't need to clear it with the boss before going.

I suppose the off season trip to Vegas that everyone on the OL attended, except Martin, makes that an official team function?

The news articles on this topic suggested these meetings were to discuss team stuff.

I guess you just want to absolve the coaches of all blame. No need for leadership or control from them! Just pile it all on Ireland. Convenient.

 

[MD]

The news articles on this topic suggested these meetings were to discuss team stuff.

I guess you just want to absolve the coaches of all blame. No need for leadership or control from them! Just pile it all on Ireland. Convenient.

Its funny that you would stand on a newspaper article as reliable info when earlier in the thread you brushed aside an article that Philbin was overruled when he wanted to cut Incognito. Seems to me that you are being selective in filling either an anti-Philbin or pro-Ireland agenda.

Not sure where you got the idea I want to absolve the coaches of all blame but, I am not going to blame them for something I think is as unreasonable as what your suggesting.

 

[ITS!MATEO]

Honestly.. Who cares. Anyone that gives up on a coach a season and a half in shouldn't even be considered a fan. The same goes to the guys who say RT is a bust in only his 2nd season. It takes time for greatness to happen. Not everything can be put into a microwave.

When things go bad you always have the same cry baby types saying what should be done when they know absolutely nothing about running a franchise. Armchair NFL Gms. It's the same everywhere though. We have many here as well...

And then those types turn around and go nuts off of one win. Go become a man and get your emotions in check.

Gimme a break.. /rant

 

[roy_miami]

I like his answer when questioned about his clock management:

Dolphins coach Joe Philbin was asked to assess his clock management in the wake of a couple of questionable decisions this season --- including not calling timeout to stop the clock before Pittsburgh had to punt late in the first half Sunday.

“Some good, some bad like anything else,” Philbin said. But… “I think our two-minute production has been very good. I think we are fourth in the league in points scored with two minutes to go or less in the half. There are certainly some areas we could have done better, absolutely.”

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy

 

[VA_Finfan]

To be honest, Joe never lost my faith. Even through all the bulls*** he remained level headed and stuck to his philosophy. He's a good coach and I like his management of the team. Plus this is only his second year ever as a head coach. He WILL make mistakes but he's the type of guy who won't repeat them. He has a lot to learn as a coach but I like the direction we're heading with Philbin.