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Has there even been a QB competition this year?

The analogy of a bad fumble came to mind...

With Linehan as the new OC and Frerotte's knowledge of the system I had a feeling that it was his job to lose, but right from the start he dropped the ball and he's been scrambling to pick it up. Fortunately for him, the only other one trying to pick it up is Feeley and every time he has a chance to pick it up, it pops out and away it goes.

Not very clear.. but it amuses me and that's all that matters :cool:
 
phinfan2003 said:
I'm going to preface this post by saying that coming into this season, I was hoping that Feeley would win the starting job over Frerotte. I was hoping that with a real offense in place, he would shine. From what I've seen in PS so far, he really hasn't and neither has Frerotte.

The reason I'm asking this question is because I'm having a hard time classifying Feeley vs. Frerotte a competition when it seems as if Frerotte has gotten more time with the 1st team than Feeley has, thus giving Frerotte more of an opportunity of winning the starting job. Even if he starts the last game of the preseason, Frerotte has gotten the bulk of the workload. If Feeley does start that last game, that would mean he started in the 2 most meaningless games of the preseason (even though they all are pretty meaningless). Why didn't Feeley start vs. Pittsburgh? Granted it may not have turned out good but give the kid a shot if it's a legitimate competition. Saban seems like an honest guy and from all accounts, has said the QB competition is an open one. I get the feeling that his actions are speaking so loud right now, that I can't hear what he's saying (if you read his book, you know what I mean by this). Maybe I'm wrong.
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I hate to compare this regime to previous regimes, but you have a legitament point...Gus came in here as "Linehan's guy" and has had all the breaks...remember also that Feeley's start with Chi was shortened due to injury...I am dissapointed that Saban hasn't given AJ the opportunity that Wanny promised him (and did not deliver either), but I also don't throw too much blame to Linehan and Saban for wanting their guy.

My concern with Gus is that he is what he is...a career backup who has faltered when given the starter position...every time...But...I don't get paid to make that decision, so we'll see how this season shakes out...
 
I think the only way AJ is going to get a shot as the starter is if Gus gets hurt.But other QBs have made it this way. Bulger, Brady, ect. I think AJ would play well enough this year to stay in there permanantly if Gus was hurt.
 
rickeyrunsover said:
You believe that because that is what you want to believe. Gus isnt outperforming AJ as far as play goes. The major factors in why Gus will start are these in no order, 1) Linehan is comfortable with Gus and Gus has a comfort level in teh system AJ doesnt have yet, 2) Gus seems to have a presence with the players around him, he seems to have the vet confidence that players respond to, and 3) Saban isnt concerned with just this year, but the future, but that doesnt mean he doesnt want to get out of teh gates realtively quickly this year and be competitive, and Gus has more experience as well as more experience in this offense, he is a safer pick.

It would not suprise me that Saban is also upset that AJ missed time in teh offseason and Saban felt he should have been here. Could be questions his commitment. Maybe off on that, but watching Saban that is something he stresses. It wouldnt also suprise me that Saban wants to make sure AJ has teh system down and has teh same comfort level that Gus does before he actually gets the shot.

But to say Gus is clearly outperforming AJ is a subjective wishful thinking stance.
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When did A.J miss anything in the offseason?
 
LarryFinFan said:
I hate to compare this regime to previous regimes, but you have a legitament point...Gus came in here as "Linehan's guy" and has had all the breaks...remember also that Feeley's start with Chi was shortened due to injury...I am dissapointed that Saban hasn't given AJ the opportunity that Wanny promised him (and did not deliver either), but I also don't throw too much blame to Linehan and Saban for wanting their guy.

My concern with Gus is that he is what he is...a career backup who has faltered when given the starter position...every time...But...I don't get paid to make that decision, so we'll see how this season shakes out...
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This post summarizes my thoughts exactly.
 
Feeley has to put up and shut up. Go in there and play ball. As far as I see it.. it was AJs job TO LOSE. And he has... If Saban felt he could WIN with AJ he would be there.

WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK AJ IS GOING TO DEVELOP INTO A STARTING QB IN THIS LEAGUE!

HE HAS TO GO OUT THERE AND PROVE IT.

With the 2 QB being so closely matched, has anyone thought that AJ is being past over for another reason. You cant teach mental toughness... either you have it or you dont. he makes better touch passes.. but poor decisions... hes been in this league for many years.... His years for the eagles should've elevated him there.. but it didnt... hmmm i wonder why.. i wonder why i feel this is another Fiedler situation waiting to happen. Oh yea... If the staff felt so confident about Feeley Gus wouldnt be here.
 
phinfan2003 said:
Are you saying that Frerotte has "earned" his playing with the 1st team? Do you think Frerotte is outplaying Feeley to the point that he's "earned" these starts?
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Overall, yes, but not by much!
 
rickeyrunsover said:
You believe that because that is what you want to believe. Gus isnt outperforming AJ as far as play goes. The major factors in why Gus will start are these in no order, 1) Linehan is comfortable with Gus and Gus has a comfort level in teh system AJ doesnt have yet, 2) Gus seems to have a presence with the players around him, he seems to have the vet confidence that players respond to, and 3) Saban isnt concerned with just this year, but the future, but that doesnt mean he doesnt want to get out of teh gates realtively quickly this year and be competitive, and Gus has more experience as well as more experience in this offense, he is a safer pick.

It would not suprise me that Saban is also upset that AJ missed time in teh offseason and Saban felt he should have been here. Could be questions his commitment. Maybe off on that, but watching Saban that is something he stresses. It wouldnt also suprise me that Saban wants to make sure AJ has teh system down and has teh same comfort level that Gus does before he actually gets the shot.

But to say Gus is clearly outperforming AJ is a subjective wishful thinking stance.
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Feeley missed time in the off season?? Don't remember hearing about that!:confused:
 
I believe Nick has made up his mind, as he stated... looking at the intangibles of both QBs, he is looking at one that will be a leader and field general.

Gus seems to know the system and seems to have better control of the O than AJ has shown in practice and in the PS games. Not necessarily mean making all the throws and completions, but limiting mistakes by making the right reads and decisions. I guess its something Nick sees lacking in AJ.
 
This garbage is getting ridiculous here. The moderators need to closed these threads. It's the same people constantly arguing their same positions on Gus verse AJ.

Now in this thread you all of a sudden have people all but saying Saban isn't fair...meanwhile a month ago they were stroking his behind :rolleyes: GET OVER IT!
 
NJFINSFAN1 said:
Overall, yes, but not by much!
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I agree with you there. So with that in mind, don't you think Feeley should get another chance to start with the 1st team before a final decision on who our starting QB will be? I'm sure Feeley will be starting that last game and before that game, I'm sure the final decision will already be made. Plus, how is it that Frerotte who's been in this system for the past couple of years not blowing away Feeley in this "competition" and taking a strong hold on the starting QB position. If you think about it, Frerotte is showing us how good he's going to be this season with the Dolphins while Feeley will only get that much better the more comfortable he gets with the system.
 
Schleprock said:
This garbage is getting ridiculous here. The moderators need to closed these threads. It's the same people constantly arguing their same positions on Gus verse AJ.

Now in this thread you all of a sudden have people all but saying Saban isn't fair...meanwhile a month ago they were stroking his behind :rolleyes: GET OVER IT!
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What you talkin' 'bout willis?
 
Coming out of the game because you can't get your shoe on, is a bad visual to leave with the coach if you are competing. I mean "he can't even tie his own shoes effectively".

As stupid as that is...I will bet ya Saban has been in a conversation where that line got used.
 
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