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Hayden Fox's Week Six Assessment

Thanks for the write up Hayden.

I agree w the assessment. The TOs - especially the 4th and 10 one were just brutal.
 
Hayden Fox said:
* Joe Philbin taking two timeouts on the final, game winning GB drive. It is a practice he has used in the past and often backfires. While his team might have been tired, the Packers were on the ropes. The TO's allowed the Packers to re-group and eventually score.
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Because the end result was a Rodgers TD, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't assumption. The opposite situation happened against Carolina last year and you lambasted Philbin for not taking the timeout. Here's the proof from your week 12 assessment posted on 11-24-2013, 08:14 PM:

* Terrible clock management by Joe Philbin. I sincerely believe that he though the Panthers were going to settle for 3 and wanted time on offense to win it. All it did was give the Panthers more time, organization and reason to score a TD. Miami ended up having no timeouts with just over 40 seconds remaining. Philbin should have kept his timeouts unless they got in close to the end zone. Perhaps they would have been forced to kick a field goal based on the time of the game if he had let the clock run.

Hayden Fox said:
* Miami was down 10-3 and it was 4th and Goal. Joe Philbin went for it and a run (third such try) up the middle was stuffed. The team needed points and not necessarily TD's today. Miami needed points on a day in which the defense played well and the Packers eventually wilted in the heat. It was a reckless decision on Philbin's part.
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If we had kicked the FG, you would have gripped about how we were not aggressive enough and that you can't settle for FGs vs the Packer's TDs. It was a risk but not a reckless decision. Your assessment there is loaded and foolish because I've seen you criticize otherwise for the sake of an agenda.

Hayden Fox said:
* The offense had a chance to put the game away with a 4 minute drill. If they came up with one more 1st down, the game might have been iced. Instead they went pass, pass, run and punt. Joe Philbin inexplicability stated the goal was to get a first down on that last set of downs, but that does not explain the run on 3rd and 9. Simply poor decision making, planning and execution.
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Wrong. It was run, incomplete pass, run.

3:10, 1st&10 - Miller 1 yard rush. Green Bay takes their last and final timeout.
3:05, 2nd&9 - Incomplete pass to Clay. Clock stops
3:01, 3rd&9 - Miller 1 yard rush. This allowed us to run :46 seconds off the clock and put it in the hands of our defense, who up until this time had held GB to only 10 points in the second half a mere FG in the fourth qtr.

Hayden Fox said:
* Not accepting the ball after winning the coin flip. Green Bay proceeds to go down the field and score a TD.
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Which was their only TD of the first half. We also came out after halftime and scored on three consecutive 80 yard TD drives (last one was actually 79 but EAD) which ironically you failed to point out as a positive.
 
Sons of Shula said:
Because the end result was a Rodgers TD, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't assumption. The opposite situation happened against Carolina last year and you lambasted Philbin for not taking the timeout. Here's the proof from your week 12 assessment posted on 11-24-2013, 08:14 PM:

* Terrible clock management by Joe Philbin. I sincerely believe that he though the Panthers were going to settle for 3 and wanted time on offense to win it. All it did was give the Panthers more time, organization and reason to score a TD. Miami ended up having no timeouts with just over 40 seconds remaining. Philbin should have kept his timeouts unless they got in close to the end zone. Perhaps they would have been forced to kick a field goal based on the time of the game if he had let the clock run.



If we had kicked the FG, you would have gripped about how we were not aggressive enough and that you can't settle for FGs vs the Packer's TDs. It was a risk but not a reckless decision. Your assessment there is loaded and foolish because I've seen you criticize otherwise for the sake of an agenda.



Wrong. It was run, incomplete pass, run.

3:10, 1st&10 - Miller 1 yard rush. Green Bay takes their last and final timeout.
3:05, 2nd&9 - Incomplete pass to Clay. Clock stops
3:01, 3rd&9 - Miller 1 yard rush. This allowed us to run :46 seconds off the clock and put it in the hands of our defense, who up until this time had held GB to only 10 points in the second half a mere FG in the fourth qtr.



Which was their only TD of the first half. We also came out after halftime and scored on three consecutive 80 yard TD drives (last one was actually 79 but EAD) which ironically you failed to point out as a positive.
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I cannot believe you are defending Joe Philbin's day today?
 
Me wanting the points was "first" guessing not "second".

Secondly, you are correct about the play sequence, but it still does not explain his rationale. Was it to run out the clock or salt it away with a pass or two. Indecision.

BTW, I did give credit to the TD drive out of the half, by giving credit to RT for one of his TD throws.
 
TheJetsBlow said:
I've had the rough Monday/Tuesday flight back to Jersey from south Florida after many a Fins loss over the years. It sucks. One of the worst flights I had to endure was after that Monday night game against the Colts a few years ago where we had the ball for 59 ****ing minutes and still lost to Peyton Manning. I just call that one 'the Gibril Wilson game'.
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Man... how many "Gibril Wilson games" were there that year :smad:, That was "the Gibril Wilson Season" God we've been mediocre for so long. :badmood:


Btw Nice Write up Hayden
 
Very nice writeup. I agree with everything you wrote. The only other point I would add is that we shouldn't have played Knowshon Moreno. He was ineffective for a long time and we kept going back to him. Not sure what the defensive strategy was there.
 
You mentioned the Packers held a lot and weren't called. None were more frustrating than the play Finnegan got the defensive holding call, a couple packers lineman were blatantly holding and right in front of the official.

I'll add I can no longer agree Rodgers is the best QB in football. I have watched to many Packers games this year and he looks average for long stretches. He doesn't dominate a game the way everyone says he does, even today he had troubles. Interesting enough Tannehill had a better QB rating.
 
More negatives: Missed tackles. Our secondary (Grimes, Wilson, Finnegan) especially looked like keystone cops out there slipping tackles and falling down all over each other. What a hot mess. Can't these guys figure out how to, you know, actually stop someone. Or maybe how to wear the right damn cleats? The only thing missing was the laugh track.
 
Very tough loss. Some very questionable calls. KM should not have played. Last drive on Offense was a brain fart. Dam we let them off the hook. Packers are too good to leave them that amount of time.
 
Same old same old....
a terrible first half ... again...but the D were great in keeping us in the game until the Offence woke up.. but it was a second half wake up call again.

If our Offence was as good as our Defence we would be a fantastic football team!!

I don't understand why we ran out of the shotgun on 4th and goal instead of taking the sure 3 pointer.. it's not like it was late in the game and necessary?? This was a huge mistake.

At the close of the game I don't understand why we were so poor on our last drive - it was as if we were playing for the 4 point victory and expecting the D on our side to hold the Packers with just minutes to go.. Philbin does know how fast the Pack with #12 can move that ball right??

Why oh why we take a time out when we have them on the ropes with just a minute to go allowing them to regroup and reset I have no idea and no explanation from the coach will satisfy me on that..

Coaching errors (for me) are the biggest factor in this loss...and now we sit at 2-3 with the Patriots resurgent and the Bills looking like their decline is happening as predicted.. Patriots for the AFC East title this year then....
 
I still say this division is wide open. While I do think the Fins lose in Chicago, I predict they will beat the Jags in a close one and beat the Chargers, making them 4-4. The most they'd be down in the loss column is 2 with 8 left and the toughest part of New England's sked is still left.

I do think this is still open for the taking.
 
What was funny on the last play I saw Wheeler out wide and I said to myself "what are they doing"? I was waiting for a QB draw too.
 
The defense kept us in the game. The offense came to life and brought us back and took the lead. This was a GREAT football game. It ended the wrong way but it was thrilling right until the final gun. Rogers is inhumanly fantastic!! We scratched and fought and left it all out on the field. There were moment that I felt very proud of this team. We were getting awesome pressure on Rogers, tossing him around, stopped the run brilliantly etc. Landry was a star, Miller stepped up, Wallace made plays, so much good to end up short in the end. What sucked for me was Philbin's presser after the game. He was saying how Green Bay deserved it, he was smiling and joking around like some jocular clown. If it was Shula STEAM would have been coming out his ears!! What's with this detached, unemotional robot?? His teams never come out ready to play. That's all on him. We can win despite him but he killed us yesterday with his clock buffoonery and use of time outs. He also probably called that series in the end that got the Pack the ball back. When the game ended I felt like I'd been gut punched by Mike Tyson in his prime. They were holding so bad I could not believe they weren't calling it! With say it aint so Joe, we will always snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Philbin??? How the hell did we wind up with this wierd, zero charisma android?? Shame, we had this one and it would have been a huge home win. I was still proud of our team after it ended. They can't help it if Dr. Moron gives them extra time outs!
 
I didn't see you mention Brandon Fields. What a terrible punt late, low and short. Just brutal punt setting up Green bay at midfield almost.
 
On the last drive, it was obvious Green Bay was daring us to pass. They knew our QB could not change a play at the line to get in the right play.
On the 2nd and 9 when Tannehill scrambles right, did it look like he had broken the pocket and could have run at least for no gain (keeping the clock moving)?
I know he has ZERP awareness so he would have never thought of it, I am just curious if he had the corner there or not..
 
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