Head Coaching Candidates: Just In Case

[Tannenbombs]

Pete Carroll is pretty old

 

[mahmacoat]

I don't care if we hire an 80 year old as long as he can get us into playoffs. Not sure what the fascination with coaches of certain ages are.

considering that they work 80+ hour weeks, I would prefer someone young and energetic and who if happens to be the one won't die/retire soon

 

[SkapePhin]

Quinn or Bevell will likely end up with the Jets with Idzik. He has been telegraphing that for awhile. He has been trying to get Rex out to install his own guy for awhile, and it will be one of his boys from Seattle


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[TheWalrus]

Quinn or Bevell will likely end up with the Jets with Idzik. He has been telegraphing that for awhile. He has been trying to get Rex out to install his own guy for awhile, and it will be one of his boys from Seattle


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Hopefully it's Bevell if it's one of those two. I prefer guys like Harbaugh and Malzahn to Quinn but there's no question Quinn is a serious name. Wouldn't like to see him coaching the Jets.

Fortunately the Jets are even more of a clown car than we are so it's not hard to imagine them bungling it, which means Idzik would probably turn to guys with head coaching experience like Raheem Morris, Mike Mularkey and Rod Marinelli that he knows from his time with Tampa (Jon Gruden was there also, obviously, but I think Gruden just uses the possibility of coaching again to leverage his contract with ESPN).

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

The Jets could turn things around quickly next season by picking up one of the free agent quarterbacks who will be available. Matt Moore and Sam Bradford are the names that would immediately come to mind, but the guy who would scare me is Brian Hoyer. He is playing legitimately good football right now, and he's doing it without the only good wide receiver that team has.

The idea of them acquiring a legit quarterback who is ready to win now in free agency scares me a lot more than Idzik importing one of Pete Carroll's lieutenants.

 

[HarryBagpipe]

The Jets could turn things around quickly next season by picking up one of the free agent quarterbacks who will be available. Matt Moore and Sam Bradford are the names that would immediately come to mind, but the guy who would scare me is Brian Hoyer. He is playing legitimately good football right now, and he's doing it without the only good wide receiver that team has.

The idea of them acquiring a legit quarterback who is ready to win now in free agency scares me a lot more than Idzik importing one of Pete Carroll's lieutenants.

Not sure why you think they could turn it around quickly next season compared to other teams. They were almost -100 in point differential last year which is more indicative of a 4 win team than an 8 win team which they were lucky to be. They were definitely looking on the downward side of things coming into the season and they are staring down the barrel of 1-6. Besides their Dline and maybe Chris Ivory, I don't see any aspect of their team that looks particularly strong. Their season is pretty much going exactly how I thought it would be

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Not sure why you think they could turn it around quickly next season compared to other teams. They were almost -100 in point differential last year which is more indicative of a 4 win team than an 8 win team which they were lucky to be. They were definitely looking on the downward side of things coming into the season and they are staring down the barrel of 1-6. Besides their Dline and maybe Chris Ivory, I don't see any aspect of their team that looks particularly strong. Their season is pretty much going exactly how I thought it would be

They're in a cap purge stretch right now and will be primed to have an insane amount of money next season. I guess the big problem for them right now, other than having the worst QB situation in the league, is that their draft picks haven't panned out under Idzik, except for Richardson.

 

[ChambersWI]

I don't follow the Jets closely enough to know with that level of detail of who pushed for what pick or trade. That information can be hard to come by on this team sometimes (not always, but sometimes).

What I do know is that Idzik is trying to clean house on all the old Tannenbaum decisions. I mean, Idzik is not a football guy. He's a cap guy. So is Tannenbaum, by the way, but Tanny was leveraging the cap and trading away draft picks to make a few runs at the Super Bowl. Johnson hired Idzik to clean up the mess and start over -- in other words, to run the team on the cheap in the short term. Hence the giant gaping holes on that roster where talent is supposed to be. I've also read that Rex has been shut out almost completely from all personnel related decisions. As in not even consulted.

It's a familiar cycle. A new GM is hired and he and the owner decide to keep the old coach for a purging year. The coach predictably fails to turn **** into shinola and is canned, allowing the GM to entice a new head coach with a nice clean roster and cap. Only Rex threw a wrench into it by actually managing to win eight games last year. Hence my appreciation for him. I already respected him as a coach and a motivator, but you could see what Idzik was doing and the way Rex was set up to fail from a mile away. Only he didn't particularly fail. This year it looks like he finally might.

The Hue Jackson thing was 180 degrees different. Jackson mortgaged the future... and managed to produce 8-8.

I grant you Ryan failed to hire good offensive coordinators. He has a known weakness there. But he was the defacto DC and his actual DC -- Mike Pettine -- has already shown himself to be a very fine coach outside of Ryan's influence. It's not at all like Philbin's specialty being offense yet his first choice of offensive coordinator ended up being a failure.

Rex isn't consulted anymore about personnel allegedly because he's just too difficult to work with. The Rumors I've heard are that in the lead up to free agency and drafts he won't even look at offensive prospects and is always pushing for more defensive guys.

Now I give him credit for getting 8 wins last year, and I think he's a good motivator, but I think his mindset that he's he's basically still the DC is what hurt him long term.

But yes, Idzik made it quite clear that he did not want Rex back, and with them winning 8 games Woody Johnson basically decided to keep Rex. We also must remember that even if our GM Search was a mess, the Jets was even more of a mess. Hickey may have been Plan G, but the Jets couldn't even get people to interview for the job.

As for Hue Jackson, how he acted after Al Davis died is a huge red flag, and the Palmer trade was a bad move and an act of desperation. For those that don't remember, the Raiders were actually playing really well and I believe were in a Wild Card spot, then Jason Campbell broke his collarbone and rather go with Kyle Boller, Hue decided to go with Palmer (who was trying to force his way out of Cincy