Help Me Tannehill Supporters

[Wallace17Miami]

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you're saying.......because among all of his struggles he has shown this season, to say that he doesn't possess Elite arm strength is got to be the most asinine assessment I have ever seen. He has the definition of elite arm strength.

Unless it's his poor accuracy, it seems like he can't throw it deep enough to hit wallace.

I guess it could be him not anticipating Wallace's speed correctly. But his passes always seem short.... he NEVER over throws him.

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Then why are most of his long passes short?

exactly.

 

[andyahs]

Notice how everyone just mocks the OP. And doesn't offer any incite as to what exactly these Tannehill supporters see in him.

Speaks volumes that you guys can't even describe what you see in him. Rather you just mock the OP.

RT's last season in Miami is 2014...... NAILED IT!!

That's not the reason the op was mocked. You clearly missed that.

It's useless for supporters of Tannehill to say why they want him to succeed and why they believe in him because posters like you cannot wait for him to fail so you can run to Finheaven and post it.

Tannehill has my support as long as he is a Fin. Learn to deal with it.

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[Wallace17Miami]

That's not the reason the op was mocked. You clearly missed that.

It's useless for supporters of Tannehill to say why they want him to succeed and why they believe in him because posters like you cannot wait for him to fail so you can run to Finheaven and post it.

Tannehill has my support as long as he is a Fin. Learn to deal with it.

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that's not the reason you supporters don't post what you see in him.

Because what you thought you saw in him.... WAS WRONG. And you don't want to admit it.

You don't see his elite pocket awareness.... elite accuracy.... elite decision making. His ability to take over a game. So you have nothing to say, which is why you don't, which is why you mock.

 

[JTC111]

that's not the reason you supporters don't post what you see in him.

They do. I just showed you that they do. Just because you disagree with them doesn't mean their posts don't exist.

 

[Spiff]

Unless it's his poor accuracy, it seems like he can't throw it deep enough to hit wallace.

I guess it could be him not anticipating Wallace's speed correctly. But his passes always seem short.... he NEVER over throws him.

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exactly.

I agree, most of this throws are underthrows, yet he fired it 60 yards to Wallace in the end zone while on the run which was not an underthrow. This is my theory: A throw, especially a long one, isn't just the arm alone, it's the whole body. On the run he has the necessary momentum to throw it long enough. In the pocket he doesn't seem to set his feet right to use the whole body's momentum to throw it. That's why they come up short. This might be the footwork improvement Lazor is trying to work on with Tannehill. Would make sense?

 

[Wallace17Miami]

They do. I just showed you that they do. Just because you disagree with them doesn't mean their posts don't exist.

No.... You didn't

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I agree, most of this throws are underthrows, yet he fired it 60 yards to Wallace in the end zone while on the run which was not an underthrow. This is my theory: A throw, especially a long one, isn't just the arm alone, it's the whole body. On the run he has the necessary momentum to throw it long enough. In the pocket he doesn't seem to set his feet right to use the whole body's momentum to throw it. That's why they come up short. This might be the footwork improvement Lazor is trying to work on with Tannehill. Would make sense?

I suppose I could buy into that.

But it has to be more then just a great arm that has supporters excited. Ryan mallet has a great arm.... And he doesn't excite anyone.

 

[Bumpus]

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[JTC111]

No.... You didn't

Denying reality doesn't make the reality false.

 

[Tureo]

It's super sensitive in here for a Qb that won't be benched and is really the best option we have right now anyway. I don't see why we need to insult each other over a wealthy guy we don't know

 

[Spiff]

No.... You didn't

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I suppose I could buy into that.

But it has to be more then just a great arm that has supporters excited. Ryan mallet has a great arm.... And he doesn't excite anyone.

I've been a fan since 1993 but I could barely watch any games that time because they wouldn't show much football in Germany. I started watching every game when yahoo introduced the Gamepass in 2006. So I've seen a few Marino games, a few Fiedler games and then every game since 2006. There are three Dolphins QBs in that timeframe where I didn't cringe when they got back to throw it: Marino, Pennington and Tannehill. I still have the feeling that whenever he throws something good is gonna happen. I still remember one of his first throws in the 2012 preseason to Clay (I believe). Lofted it over the defender right into the hands of Clay. Beautiful throw which no QB since Danny could have made. And last but not least I have seen improvement from Tannehill in lots of areas: going through his progressions, stepping up in the pocket (in those rare cases there is a pocket), never gets flustered (he absolutely has the makings of a franchise QB in that regard) and he made Brian Hartline (of all people!) a 1.000 yard receiver, back-to-back. I still hope.

 

[Wallace17Miami]

Denying reality doesn't make the reality false.

Sorry missed your post.

Thanks for finding one....

Too bad none of those people could venture in here and offer some input as to what they see in Tannehill like the OP asked. Seems like not many people see anything in him if we have to dig around threads to find one more two comments.

 

[andyahs]

that's not the reason you supporters don't post what you see in him.

Because what you thought you saw in him.... WAS WRONG. And you don't want to admit it.

You don't see his elite pocket awareness.... elite accuracy.... elite decision making. His ability to take over a game. So you have nothing to say, which is why you don't, which is why you mock.

Whatever floats your boat son.

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[Wallace17Miami]

I've been a fan since 1993 but I could barely watch any games that time because they wouldn't show much football in Germany. I started watching every game when yahoo introduced the Gamepass in 2006. So I've seen a few Marino games, a few Fiedler games and then every game since 2006. There are three Dolphins QBs in that timeframe where I didn't cringe when they got back to throw it: Marino, Pennington and Tannehill. I still have the feeling that whenever he throws something good is gonna happen. I still remember one of his first throws in the 2012 preseason to Clay (I believe). Lofted it over the defender right into the hands of Clay. Beautiful throw which no QB since Danny could have made. And last but not least I have seen improvement from Tannehill in lots of areas: going through his progressions, stepping up in the pocket (in those rare cases there is a pocket), never gets flustered (he absolutely has the makings of a franchise QB in that regard) and he made Brian Hartline (of all people!) a 1.000 yard receiver, back-to-back. I still hope.

I agree with some of your assessment. He HAS made good throws, and he does occasionally make them. However that seems to have become fewer and further between. I also agree that he never seems to get frustrated, which is good, but I think we can find that in a lot of QB's.

And I disagree completely with him stepping up in the pocket, I rarely see him do that.

My main beef with RT is he doesn't extend plays, he is becoming more and more inaccurate, and his pocket awareness is god awful. And seeing regression in those 3 area's is not something we should be seeing in year 3 of a franchise QB. These are things we should start to see improving, and should be at a level that can help us win football games now, which is not the case.

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Whatever floats your boat son.

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Nothing comment. Thanks for making my argument stronger.

 

[walt]

I don't understand football because I have the audacity to point out that a particular QB chokes in second halves of playoff games - consistently, while his fluffers find all kinds of excuses they'd never let fly with other QBs? Too ****ing funny... but don't quit your day job. The value of opinions should not be considered in a vacuum. When you're so obviously wrong about one QB being "a winner" then all your other opinions automatically become suspect... especially when you go "troll OCD" on 'em.

Getting us into a playoff game would be an accomplishment. If our QB gets us to the playoffs this year and then chokes, I will be a supporter.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

Forget setting his feet... he needs to use his feet A LOT more often. The 2nd and 1 play in the second half of the Chiefs game was the best example of this. Inexplicably, we called a passing play.... tannehill was flushed out of the pocket and instead of running for the first down with a wide open lane in front of him, he decided to throw a ridiculous incomplete pass. He needs to learn when to run because he is more than capable of scrambling. He is trying to do too much with his arm.

IMO, there was nothing wrong with the play call or the decision to throw on that play. There were three breakdowns in execution. First, the pass protection allowed quick pressure. Second, Wallace ran a crappy route and got bumped out of bounds. Third, the throw was off target. I don't know if the throw was off target because Tannehill saw Wallace to out of bounds or if it was just a poor throw. Either way, once Wallace goes out of bounds, it can't be completed. IMO, that was exactly the time to take a shot.

The bigger issue (for me) was the play that followed it. Again, there were a couple of issues. First Tannehill takes too long to check down to Thomas in the flat. Second, it looks to me like Tannehill is going to go there but inexplicably Thomas turns away from the QB and turns more up field. I watched the all-22 on that play and it looked to me like Tannehill was going to throw it to Thomas just as he turns away. If Thomas continues to the left flat, he is open for the first down.

So, on those two plays, I agree, running may have picked up the first down, but 2nd and 1 is a great time to take a shot, especially when there is single coverage. 3rd and 1, was an easy throw until Thomas turns his back. By that time, it was too late to scramble.