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Hoops scoops…this front office and qb got to go!

Ive been waiting for a poop shoots smashing Grier.
The clown show did nothing to address a real third option (Bowers as you mentioned) and instead of upgrading the corn they took an undersized edge and a project tackle lmao.
I see you got a shot in at big bird on skates also. Nice! Why doesnt Grier turn on the guard tape?
“Guess who’s back…back again…guess who’s back…tell a friend”

Someone needs to come in here and tell it like it is…and well I’m just that person. As usual if you don’t like it I don’t care.

This franchise now has the longest non playoff win drought in the nfl. Who has been in the building for the duration of that drought I ask you? Why none other than chris me and my brother should probably switch sports Grier.

All he’s done since he became the gm is pass accountability to others. Hemorrhage money on bad contracts and fail in the draft to maximize the return pick asset wise on a yearly basis in the draft.

Now we are stuck with the worst qb contract in football and don’t kid yourself it’s the worst on a guy who may well down the road die even on the field. Instead of forcing Tua to play on tbat 5th year option we gave top money to a qb who while a great person and heck I’d even be proud to have him marry my daughter even which speaks to his character is now has finished 2 of his first 4 years out for the season and likely will finish his 5th year the same way. In addition this qb has fenced twice already on the field and has his head bounce off the turf on a pretty much weekly basis in some form or another. Weight gain weight loss fat as a deer tick tua or weight watchers tua it doesn’t matter. This same qb is now 1- whatever vs the bills and we as a team are now 1-12 in our last 13 vs the bills. We aren’t competition for Buffalo or rivals we are camp fodder like the 3 qbs we have in the building now behind tua. We are buffalos bitch!!!

And now you want to make me watch skylar Thompson butcher the position? Why not just take a hot poker to my eyes instead. Tyler Huntley, Tim Boyle? 🤮

In addition this qb tua has played sub standard ball and replace me level ball even down the stretch in each of the seasons he actually has finished. That int into 2 deep coverage vs Buffalo where the safety post snap had the leverage and the route was into the leverage week 18 with everything on the line by tua was more matt moore than franchise qb stuff. It was one of the worst pre to post snap decisions ive ever seen and I broke down qb tape for years.

Miami has no Josh Allen offset I screamed for years about the need for it especially when this qb tua isn’t in an offense that features qb process and is basically very qb friendly but not much qb freedom which is what McDaniel has brought to Miami.

Miami needs to pray that Tua is cleared and retired cause otherwise this contracr will be an albatross for the next half decade with this team and stuck with a qb and offensive system that to this day I still can’t say what level processer he is which was suppose to carry him in the pros. I’ll say the sniffs I have gotten haven’t lead me to believe he should have more on his plate. Given that he’s a system qb in a system that many qbs could run. Just minus the athletic ability that many qbs possess to make teams have to prepare for 2 way threat qbs.

Im sorry Tua but do the team a favor and retire. Take your $47 mil and walk. You weee never getting us over the hump with Josh Allen anyways. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze any more.

Back to the gm. Do I really want to to give this clown another bite at the qb draft apple? Yikes.

Let’s see. Raekwon Davis non existent 2nd round pick gone under your watch. Traded Laremy Tunsil for a slew of picks in a move to get in position for a qb that qb thing has failed. Yeah sure the numbers are there but this teams record vs playoff caliber teams is a joke and shows how much of a pretender we are. They are largely empty numbers.

Liam eichenberg stinks anywhere you put him 2nd round pick fail. Should have cut that years ago instead we start him. Belongs in the ufl.

Tagged Mike gesicki and his 1 catch for 8 yard average paying him north of $10 mil that year when anyone with an ounce of clue knew that we should have let him walk. Addition by subtraction. 2nd round pick fail.

Drafted a position less player in round 3 in the I guess lb Channing tindall. Dudes not even active in year 3 fail. And these are just off the top of my head.

This gms record on day 2 of the draft is a joke. The round one record is not maximizing return either. Yeah we traded out from 3 to 6 and then 12 and everyone tbinks we cleaned house. Well guess out you missed out on better players everywhere along the way. The best draft in maybe my entire scouting career and while you did good you could have done better. That draft has hall of famers written all over it already.

Let’s talk about extending guys when we didn’t need to. Mcd falls in on this too I’m sure. Kicker extension a year early. Fullback who was out of the league the year prior ingold pulls down 3 and 17 mil for what when we control him at least another year. All of these while we controlled them another year or more.

Making Ramsey the highest paid corner when you still control him. Making reek and his off the field never ending concerns a highest paid wr when you control him.

This interior oline which is probably the worst unit in the entire league. A 290 lb center that is owed 5 mil next year regardless if he’s here or not. Sure mcds scheme helps the oline and your banking on it with your smug comments about everyone is worried about the oline but us well how’d that look to you when Buffalo went into a 2 deep shell and you couldn’t run the damn ball situationally despite it? Why? Cause your interior oline sucks.

Get used to it cause one thing I know is this is a copy cat league and they know your interior oline blows. Gonna see a lot of coverage over your 2 Smurf WRs coming. With no offset to be found other than achane who at 188 lbs is being used like Adrian Peterson or something by this dumb head coach.

Speaking of the head coach burns timeouts like my grandpa burns cigarettes. Must be taking hits off his vape when it’s time to get plays in. Wanted Jonnu smith and obj like those 2 clown adds would get this team over the Buffalo bump. Jonnu has always been system based production and obj cares more about his instagram than football these days and will complain to no end if and when he does come back when he isn’t being fed the ball when he’s the backside progression in an offense that doesn’t ask the qb to get to the backside very often. An offense where 80 percent of the primary’s are open by design. Another reason 14 ints by the qb is way way too many. But I digress. This same head coach saved waddle from the week 18 must win home game for the kc playoff where the qb couldn’t execute lateral throws behind the los in those elements let alone anytbing down the damn field. Duke Riley in that game avoided even 2 hand touch and yet he’s still on this roster. Embarrassing. Wonder if you wore them capri pants to that one?

Let’s talk about this last draft if that didn’t scream to you I’m safe as a gm and head coach nothing does. First 2 day picks on projects and a trade for a 4th rb lol. Job well done Grier. Your 2nd round pick Paul has the redirect and short area quickness of an aircraft carrier he already looks more destined to be kicked inside to left guard down the road than to even make it as the active swing 3rd tackle. Fail. Don’t know why I’m surprised these dudes can’t evaluate oline play if their lives depended on it.

We got the smallest skill group in the league smallest catch radius in the league 3rd and 4th WRs feature Robbie I would t choose you in flag chosen alright and berrios who has zero value as a wr option.

This team has failed to get what it needs for the last 2 years more than anything with this size skill a true flex difference maker at the tight end spot. And sure enough when exactly what we need comes along to pair with all this Smurf skill in Brock bowers and he gets out of the top 10 this clown gm is sitting on his hands and clueless. Same for the head coach who should never wear them gold glasses on the sideline again. Go back to the nerd look you will be a vaping oc career guy at the rate you are going in no time.

Which leads me to the owner the corpse who allows these things to continuously happen. To have his money continuously hemorrhaged over and over on bad contracts and bad draft picks and asset and personnel mismanagement. I feel bad for ya Ross but you are being fed a bunch of bs by these folks you appointed. Hold someone accountable step up and force change. Come out and say win or else I don’t care about attrition or any of that you guys built it and you will walk the plank of it doesn’t win. Period. But no I’m fully convinced this front office as a whole is content with being a fringe playoff team and never winning anything if they don’t win the division and get home playoff games. It’s our only chance under this style offense and qb combo and head coach combo. How else can you allow this gm and head coach to come on end of year after yet another fall off the table season and raping at kc no less and drop a smug presser and laughing and joking about it like they don’t have a care in the world.

Do better Ross. Or pass away and let someone else try.

Hoops out ✌️
 
Hey Travis long time no see. Hope all things are well with you.

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I’m not gonna roast the dc yet but the run defense has been a major red flag.
I like Chop's potential too, seems like a freak athlete but def needs to develop his game. I'm encouraged that you dont hate the pick though lol

It's hard with Cam Smith... who knows we just havent seen much of him at all. Has potential I guess

Long's probably one of the better mlb's we've had in some time, I like him out there. Is he Fred Warner? No but not a ton of elite mike's out there. I've got hope that Brooks settles in and looks better in the defense, I figure'd he be like Jerome Baker but just a little better. Speaking of Baker, I'm sure youre glad he's gone!! Even if it is the worst contract on the team, it's not a huge money deal at least

Agreed on Poyer. Wonder if Maye would be better starting? Did you like what you saw from McMorris in the preseason?? Seems like he could be at least okay depth down the line

Hopefully Sieler picks it up soon, and it wasnt related to Wilkins getting all the attention.. you'd think Campbell would get some of that. Zach's been a favorite of mine on the team for years. So I hope he turns it around

I'm very, very saddened by what you wrote about Paul... I'm still gonna hold out hope and be optimistic he can work out. We really need young dudes on the OL to be able to be counted on in the future. Even if it's just at LG, who cares. Although that is a tall ass man to be inside.. Overdrafted you say... ugh...

Achane is a beast. Even running him inside he's just hard to tackle.. I'd like to see more of Wright though, get less wear n tear on Achane

Phillips not just beating a TE is worrisome, but I'll cut him and Chubb some slack coming back from injury. Chubb prob isnt gonna be offering a ton of juice its not like he was a super elite pass rusher to begin with

Quinton Bell so much hype lol

Super thin at WR outside of TH/JW .... I'm excited to see what Washington can eventually offering. Maybe more so in a year or 2. EZE feels like a failed pick at this point but some size and physicality would be a nice boost right now

TE is a mess indeed too...

Really hoping Weaver can be an alright DC, maybe they need more time getting acclimated and gel'ing, who knows. The run D has def been bad. Losing Wilkins factor? Scheme? Other players in general? who knows but things arent going to be getting easier for them any time soon. Doubt the offense has been long sustained drives
 
yeah it's about that middle ground or happy medium. Flores was not the answer either, he was toxic and a dbag. So somewhere between mike and flores seems might be the good balance
Not just Miami, but across the league, I think there's a tendency to ping pong back and forth.

Coach 1 is a discplinarian, players aren't having fun, team is losing, coach is fired.

Coach 2 is hired because he is player friendly and all are happy. But if the teams doesn't win, he's fired.

Coach 3 is hired because he's a discplinarian...

Around and around the wheel spins...
 
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I like Chop's potential too, seems like a freak athlete but def needs to develop his game. I'm encouraged that you dont hate the pick though lol

It's hard with Cam Smith... who knows we just havent seen much of him at all. Has potential I guess

Long's probably one of the better mlb's we've had in some time, I like him out there. Is he Fred Warner? No but not a ton of elite mike's out there. I've got hope that Brooks settles in and looks better in the defense, I figure'd he be like Jerome Baker but just a little better. Speaking of Baker, I'm sure youre glad he's gone!! Even if it is the worst contract on the team, it's not a huge money deal at least

Agreed on Poyer. Wonder if Maye would be better starting? Did you like what you saw from McMorris in the preseason?? Seems like he could be at least okay depth down the line

Hopefully Sieler picks it up soon, and it wasnt related to Wilkins getting all the attention.. you'd think Campbell would get some of that. Zach's been a favorite of mine on the team for years. So I hope he turns it around

I'm very, very saddened by what you wrote about Paul... I'm still gonna hold out hope and be optimistic he can work out. We really need young dudes on the OL to be able to be counted on in the future. Even if it's just at LG, who cares. Although that is a tall ass man to be inside.. Overdrafted you say... ugh...

Achane is a beast. Even running him inside he's just hard to tackle.. I'd like to see more of Wright though, get less wear n tear on Achane

Phillips not just beating a TE is worrisome, but I'll cut him and Chubb some slack coming back from injury. Chubb prob isnt gonna be offering a ton of juice its not like he was a super elite pass rusher to begin with

Quinton Bell so much hype lol

Super thin at WR outside of TH/JW .... I'm excited to see what Washington can eventually offering. Maybe more so in a year or 2. EZE feels like a failed pick at this point but some size and physicality would be a nice boost right now

TE is a mess indeed too...

Really hoping Weaver can be an alright DC, maybe they need more time getting acclimated and gel'ing, who knows. The run D has def been bad. Losing Wilkins factor? Scheme? Other players in general? who knows but things arent going to be getting easier for them any time soon. Doubt the offense has been long sustained drives

I should add that if we can get Robert jones paired with Wynn at guard and Brewer on the pivot this interior oline has a chance to not be as eye sore.

Wynn left guard Robert jones right. Robert jones is the one guy not named Wynn id like to see brought back next year. I like Wynn when he plays.

Cotton no thanks and eich goodbye
 
Not just Miami, but across the league, I think there's a tendency to ping pong back and forth.

Coach 1 is a discplinarian, players aren't having fun, team is losing, coach is fired.

Coach 2 is hired because he is player friendly and all are happy. But if the teams doesn't win, he's fired.

Coach 3 is hired because he's a discplinarian...

Around and around the wheel spins...
You bring a coach with a history of winning. And let players know he's not going anywhere until win become part of or go
 
You bring a coach with a history of winning. And let players know he's not going anywhere until win become part of or go

I don't have a problem with setting a winning expectation, but no head coach has ever won a Super Bowl with 2 different teams.

So if you're hiring a coach with a history of winning or a "proven winner", he either didn't win the big one or you're bucking 5 decades of history.

In my opinion, there are no simple answers. Nothing guarantees future success.
 
Not just Miami, but across the league, I think there's a tendency to ping pong back and forth.

Coach 1 is a discplinarian, players aren't having fun, team is losing, coach is fired.

Coach 2 is hired because he is player friendly and all are happy. But if the teams doesn't win, he's fired.

Coach 3 is hired because he's a discplinarian...

Around and around the wheel spins...
This is our cycle more or less.
 
And Grier does all this without input from HC/coordinators/assts/scouts. I'd love to be a fly on the wall.
Grier: Hey, Mcd, I just signed Chosen. You'll have to cut somebody.
Mcd: W_H_A_A_A_T????
Sorry, blaming Grier without blaming the HCs and staff is unrealistic. As always, odd man out
Grier is the GM, which is the highest position in football operations (outside Ross). He hired McDaniel who by the way is his 3rd HC. Yet zero playoff wins. Guy has never won jack, the buck stops with him, time for him to be held accountable for once in his life.
 
Not just Miami, but across the league, I think there's a tendency to ping pong back and forth.

Coach 1 is a discplinarian, players aren't having fun, team is losing, coach is fired.

Coach 2 is hired because he is player friendly and all are happy. But if the teams doesn't win, he's fired.

Coach 3 is hired because he's a discplinarian...

Around and around the wheel spins...
Andy Reid seems like that good balance. He seems like a lovable guy which it sounds like from the players that he is. But I've heard many say, he will got on them big time if they mess up
 
“Guess who’s back…back again…guess who’s back…tell a friend”

Someone needs to come in here and tell it like it is…and well I’m just that person. As usual if you don’t like it I don’t care.

This franchise now has the longest non playoff win drought in the nfl. Who has been in the building for the duration of that drought I ask you? Why none other than chris me and my brother should probably switch sports Grier.

All he’s done since he became the gm is pass accountability to others. Hemorrhage money on bad contracts and fail in the draft to maximize the return pick asset wise on a yearly basis in the draft.

Now we are stuck with the worst qb contract in football and don’t kid yourself it’s the worst on a guy who may well down the road die even on the field. Instead of forcing Tua to play on tbat 5th year option we gave top money to a qb who while a great person and heck I’d even be proud to have him marry my daughter even which speaks to his character is now has finished 2 of his first 4 years out for the season and likely will finish his 5th year the same way. In addition this qb has fenced twice already on the field and has his head bounce off the turf on a pretty much weekly basis in some form or another. Weight gain weight loss fat as a deer tick tua or weight watchers tua it doesn’t matter. This same qb is now 1- whatever vs the bills and we as a team are now 1-12 in our last 13 vs the bills. We aren’t competition for Buffalo or rivals we are camp fodder like the 3 qbs we have in the building now behind tua. We are buffalos bitch!!!

And now you want to make me watch skylar Thompson butcher the position? Why not just take a hot poker to my eyes instead. Tyler Huntley, Tim Boyle? 🤮

In addition this qb tua has played sub standard ball and replace me level ball even down the stretch in each of the seasons he actually has finished. That int into 2 deep coverage vs Buffalo where the safety post snap had the leverage and the route was into the leverage week 18 with everything on the line by tua was more matt moore than franchise qb stuff. It was one of the worst pre to post snap decisions ive ever seen and I broke down qb tape for years.

Miami has no Josh Allen offset I screamed for years about the need for it especially when this qb tua isn’t in an offense that features qb process and is basically very qb friendly but not much qb freedom which is what McDaniel has brought to Miami.

Miami needs to pray that Tua is cleared and retired cause otherwise this contracr will be an albatross for the next half decade with this team and stuck with a qb and offensive system that to this day I still can’t say what level processer he is which was suppose to carry him in the pros. I’ll say the sniffs I have gotten haven’t lead me to believe he should have more on his plate. Given that he’s a system qb in a system that many qbs could run. Just minus the athletic ability that many qbs possess to make teams have to prepare for 2 way threat qbs.

Im sorry Tua but do the team a favor and retire. Take your $47 mil and walk. You weee never getting us over the hump with Josh Allen anyways. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze any more.

Back to the gm. Do I really want to to give this clown another bite at the qb draft apple? Yikes.

Let’s see. Raekwon Davis non existent 2nd round pick gone under your watch. Traded Laremy Tunsil for a slew of picks in a move to get in position for a qb that qb thing has failed. Yeah sure the numbers are there but this teams record vs playoff caliber teams is a joke and shows how much of a pretender we are. They are largely empty numbers.

Liam eichenberg stinks anywhere you put him 2nd round pick fail. Should have cut that years ago instead we start him. Belongs in the ufl.

Tagged Mike gesicki and his 1 catch for 8 yard average paying him north of $10 mil that year when anyone with an ounce of clue knew that we should have let him walk. Addition by subtraction. 2nd round pick fail.

Drafted a position less player in round 3 in the I guess lb Channing tindall. Dudes not even active in year 3 fail. And these are just off the top of my head.

This gms record on day 2 of the draft is a joke. The round one record is not maximizing return either. Yeah we traded out from 3 to 6 and then 12 and everyone tbinks we cleaned house. Well guess out you missed out on better players everywhere along the way. The best draft in maybe my entire scouting career and while you did good you could have done better. That draft has hall of famers written all over it already.

Let’s talk about extending guys when we didn’t need to. Mcd falls in on this too I’m sure. Kicker extension a year early. Fullback who was out of the league the year prior ingold pulls down 3 and 17 mil for what when we control him at least another year. All of these while we controlled them another year or more.

Making Ramsey the highest paid corner when you still control him. Making reek and his off the field never ending concerns a highest paid wr when you control him.

This interior oline which is probably the worst unit in the entire league. A 290 lb center that is owed 5 mil next year regardless if he’s here or not. Sure mcds scheme helps the oline and your banking on it with your smug comments about everyone is worried about the oline but us well how’d that look to you when Buffalo went into a 2 deep shell and you couldn’t run the damn ball situationally despite it? Why? Cause your interior oline sucks.

Get used to it cause one thing I know is this is a copy cat league and they know your interior oline blows. Gonna see a lot of coverage over your 2 Smurf WRs coming. With no offset to be found other than achane who at 188 lbs is being used like Adrian Peterson or something by this dumb head coach.

Speaking of the head coach burns timeouts like my grandpa burns cigarettes. Must be taking hits off his vape when it’s time to get plays in. Wanted Jonnu smith and obj like those 2 clown adds would get this team over the Buffalo bump. Jonnu has always been system based production and obj cares more about his instagram than football these days and will complain to no end if and when he does come back when he isn’t being fed the ball when he’s the backside progression in an offense that doesn’t ask the qb to get to the backside very often. An offense where 80 percent of the primary’s are open by design. Another reason 14 ints by the qb is way way too many. But I digress. This same head coach saved waddle from the week 18 must win home game for the kc playoff where the qb couldn’t execute lateral throws behind the los in those elements let alone anytbing down the damn field. Duke Riley in that game avoided even 2 hand touch and yet he’s still on this roster. Embarrassing. Wonder if you wore them capri pants to that one?

Let’s talk about this last draft if that didn’t scream to you I’m safe as a gm and head coach nothing does. First 2 day picks on projects and a trade for a 4th rb lol. Job well done Grier. Your 2nd round pick Paul has the redirect and short area quickness of an aircraft carrier he already looks more destined to be kicked inside to left guard down the road than to even make it as the active swing 3rd tackle. Fail. Don’t know why I’m surprised these dudes can’t evaluate oline play if their lives depended on it.

We got the smallest skill group in the league smallest catch radius in the league 3rd and 4th WRs feature Robbie I would t choose you in flag chosen alright and berrios who has zero value as a wr option.

This team has failed to get what it needs for the last 2 years more than anything with this size skill a true flex difference maker at the tight end spot. And sure enough when exactly what we need comes along to pair with all this Smurf skill in Brock bowers and he gets out of the top 10 this clown gm is sitting on his hands and clueless. Same for the head coach who should never wear them gold glasses on the sideline again. Go back to the nerd look you will be a vaping oc career guy at the rate you are going in no time.

Which leads me to the owner the corpse who allows these things to continuously happen. To have his money continuously hemorrhaged over and over on bad contracts and bad draft picks and asset and personnel mismanagement. I feel bad for ya Ross but you are being fed a bunch of bs by these folks you appointed. Hold someone accountable step up and force change. Come out and say win or else I don’t care about attrition or any of that you guys built it and you will walk the plank of it doesn’t win. Period. But no I’m fully convinced this front office as a whole is content with being a fringe playoff team and never winning anything if they don’t win the division and get home playoff games. It’s our only chance under this style offense and qb combo and head coach combo. How else can you allow this gm and head coach to come on end of year after yet another fall off the table season and raping at kc no less and drop a smug presser and laughing and joking about it like they don’t have a care in the world.

Do better Ross. Or pass away and let someone else try.

Hoops out ✌️
I could not read all of this. I tried, but all I could get out of this was another temper tantrum on week 2. It is only a game, and in the end and asking someone to pass away is just wrong. It is a game played by millionaires and watched by millions and all but a few are happy at season's end. "Guess who's back", honestly go post this utter tasteless post somewhere else.
 
Article today on the Chargers o-line play since Harbaugh took over. It’s been nicknamed “medieval”. Herbert isn’t even playing great and apparently they are road grading teams, getting lower and blowing them off of the ball. You can fix o-line in one season. Other teams do it. Why can’t we ?

It's funny, I was laughed at when I used the Chargers as a team that "gets it" in regards to fixing the o line to help their QB
 
IMPOSSIBLE TO DISAGREE WITH. Welcome back man, you have been missed.
 
I could not read all of this. I tried, but all I could get out of this was another temper tantrum on week 2. It is only a game, and in the end and asking someone to pass away is just wrong. It is a game played by millionaires and watched by millions and all but a few are happy at season's end. "Guess who's back", honestly go post this utter tasteless post somewhere else.

What does week 2 have to do with a multi season problem? He's dead on and folks that don't like it, cope. Some even lash out and project accusing the author of doing what he himself is doing, albeit passive aggressively.
 
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