that means nothing w/o links and it was 2009 and 2010 when we went to title games and 2010 he was HUGE for us. He did much more than Tannehill this year who hasn't even helped his team to the playoffs yet.
How does ESPN QBR work? Tannehill's QBR DROPPED from 26 to 28 after Sunday's win
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that means nothing w/o links and it was 2009 and 2010 when we went to title games and 2010 he was HUGE for us. He did much more than Tannehill this year who hasn't even helped his team to the playoffs yet.
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The thing is, a lot of this is a judgement call.
Who knows, it just seems this equation is weird as hell with Josh McCown tops in the league and Matt Ryan in Top 5 even though his team is in line for a Top 3 draft pick with him healthy all year... How clutch can that be?
I watched most of those games, he was average at best, and normally below average in many of the games. Not a good QB, unless you were not paying attention, or a Jets fan that refused to take off those green colored glasses.
We both know you said it, I have no need to try and dig up what we both know you said.
So typical... deny, deny, deny.....
Those were comments about the 2009 and 2010 Jets being totally dependent on the run. EVERYONE knows it. You can stamp your feet and scream like a little girl all you want. It is still true.
Even coaches from his own team admit it. You can do it too.
Sanchez clearly you didn't watch him in 2010 and I NEVER said that. Find the quote. Good luck finding something that doesn't exist. I have NEVER called him elite or aid he would be elite- EVER.
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So typical... deny, deny, deny.....
Those were comments about the 2009 and 2010 Jets being totally dependent on the run. EVERYONE knows it. You can stamp your feet and scream like a little girl all you want. It is still true.
Even coaches from his own team admit it. You can do it too.
who were those quotes from? much like you just looking at a stats sheet it means nothing w/o context. Post the links.
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Anything from ESPN is tainted. We all saw that in their coverage of the Martin BS. I could care less what their rating says.
As far as Butt fumble he had a couple decent years playing with a great defense and having a very good running game. He's history now so let's compare the present day starters.
Tannehill > Geno and it's really no contest.
As far as Butt fumble he had a couple decent years playing with a great defense and having a very good running game. He's history now so let's compare the present day starters.
Tannehill > Geno and it's really no contest.
Obviously he is better than Geno.
Our Ds were never truly great, they were very good but had a bad habit of blowing games late, in 2010 Mark rescued them numerous times. The run game was also very overrated but still good.
They were from two of the worst sources, the NYTimes and NFL.com.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/sports/football/10jets.html
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822db79e/article/jets-relying-too-much-on-sanchez-running-game-must-lead-way
There, now you can deflect, or deny, or change the subject, or call the writers incompetent, or whatever tactic helps you keep your dreams of Sanchez alive. So sad.
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LOL. Yeah, they were only number 1 overall in yards and points in 09 and 3rd in yards and 6th in points in 2010. But they were never great. They ran for 2700 yards in 2009 and 2400 in 2010. That's 5100 yards in 2 seasons. 5100!!!! Just stop.
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did you actually read the articles?
NY Times one:
if we couldn't pass how did the pass game emerge?
Remember when I said he was good in postseason wins for all but a half? that half was the 1st half at Indy and we got the game under control running in the 2nd half but he made big throws and led the GW drive throwing the ball in the final minute to set up a chip shot GW FG at the gun.
do you have an article after the next playoff game in NE when mark threw 3 TD passes helping us win?
the 2nd article was from 2011 when we were struggling and do you know why we were relying too much on Mark? it's b/c we couldn't run the ball and fell behind almost every week.
but nice try and thank you for posting the links, they were what I expected.
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watch the games, the D blew late leads 3 times in the reg season then a double digit lead in the title game.
the run game was great in garbage time but the #s were skewed from 2 games against Buf and a game against Oak where we had back to back 300+ yd games.
WATCH the games, don't just rely on stat sheets. You don't have any clue what you are talking about.
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name 10 better QBs in 2010.
I love that I have so many fans that follow me from board to board.
Deflect. Deny. ha ha ha.
Only you could interpret two articles that conclude that Sanchez cannot play QB unless he is protected by the running game to mean anything other than that.
Been there. Done that. How's Sanchize doing now? He had 4 years to prove he was the guy.
Let me ask you something. Is Rex Ryan retarded? If they really thought Sanchez was the answer, why draft Geno and push Sanchez aside? Why?
How come junc never acknowledges game 14 in their 09 Charity Drive:
* the actual game vs a dead Atlanta dome team at home that they actually had to win and after which Rex cried in the presser that their season was over?
* Lost at home 10-7, with a Sanchez interception setting up the 3pt FG winning differential
* Sanchez unlike Tannehill Sunday, in a game he absolutely had to win, again came up short: 49.7QBR, 1 TD and 3 Ints (one very costly)
Why do we never hear about Sanchez's classic crap-the-bed-and-then-roll-around-on-it choke job when the season was on the line (before anyone suspected there'd be 2 "fantasy win" presents from Santa under Rex's tree (right next to Michelle's new giftwrapped dildo)
* the actual game vs a dead Atlanta dome team at home that they actually had to win and after which Rex cried in the presser that their season was over?
* Lost at home 10-7, with a Sanchez interception setting up the 3pt FG winning differential
* Sanchez unlike Tannehill Sunday, in a game he absolutely had to win, again came up short: 49.7QBR, 1 TD and 3 Ints (one very costly)
Why do we never hear about Sanchez's classic crap-the-bed-and-then-roll-around-on-it choke job when the season was on the line (before anyone suspected there'd be 2 "fantasy win" presents from Santa under Rex's tree (right next to Michelle's new giftwrapped dildo)
I can actually read and understand what I am reading.
I have discussed that many times through the years, very cold and windy day. Not good for offenses as we saw w/ Atlanta struggling to put up points too. mark struggled, he had the one perfect pass for the TD but struggled. To be fair our K missed 2 FGs in a 3 pt loss and it was a missed FG(I believe it was blocked) that set up Atl's GW drive NOT a Mark INT.
He and the team got lucky that teams like Miami choked(very similar to this year by the way where Miami had a chance to close strong and make the playoffs while we were considered dead).
Sanchez didn't have a RB bust a near 60 yd run, he didn't throw an INT for a TD, he didn't get the ball deep in Atl territory twice and he had a K miss/get blocked 2 FGs from inside 40- yds in a 3 pt loss.
by the way, Mark was also coming off missing the last game and a half w/ an injury.