How does ESPN QBR work? Tannehill's QBR DROPPED from 26 to 28 after Sunday's win
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I can read just fine but he lost one fumble that season so you can keep making it up but you may want to look it up.
http://www.nfl.com/player/marksanchez/79858/profile
how are the situations alike in any way?
mark on the road in a PLAYOFF game, under a minute left, first possession since losing lead.
gets KO return to 46, takes over w/ 45 secs left.
goes 3 for 3 for 38 yds including a beautiful 18 yd pass to Braylon on the sideline setting up chip shot FG for the win.
Ryan on the road against an under .500 team after having failed in 2 prior possession to get the lead:
gets 55 yd run to set up Mia at Pit 16, throws short pass and watched Clay break 2 tackles and score a TD
Yeah, exactly the same
as far as mark on that 18 mins-
9-12 in the 2nd half and had a big 3rd down scramble for a 1st down.
What I see is Tannehill threw a game-winning TD whereas Sanchez didn't.
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I said I misread the stat. I'm not afraid of admitting a mistake.
For the record, even charitably speaking, Sanchez was not a top 10QB and the only reason he may have made the top 16 (or one half of all starters) is because his team carried him more so and further than more qualified QBs.
As a matter of fact, underscoring what I've been arguing for years, check out the 2010 Henne/Sanchez comparison and you'll see that they're basically the same QB except for the supporting casts and defenses. You still cannot convince me that in 09, when both Henne and Sanchez were 7-7 before Santa drops some giftgames down Rex's chimney, Henne could not have accomplished what Sanchez did and possibly more (especially in that pathetic SD postseasn game) Presently, I'm convinced that The Buttfumbler, being the sensitive boy he is, would have folded under the pressure down in Jacksonville and never bounced back like Henne is relatively doing given what he has to work with.
As a matter of fact, underscoring what I've been arguing for years, check out the 2010 Henne/Sanchez comparison and you'll see that they're basically the same QB except for the supporting casts and defenses. You still cannot convince me that in 09, when both Henne and Sanchez were 7-7 before Santa drops some giftgames down Rex's chimney, Henne could not have accomplished what Sanchez did and possibly more (especially in that pathetic SD postseasn game) Presently, I'm convinced that The Buttfumbler, being the sensitive boy he is, would have folded under the pressure down in Jacksonville and never bounced back like Henne is relatively doing given what he has to work with.
They are alike in that the drive was due more to plays that were made by others.
Against a defense beaten down by the Jets running game for the entire half. After being setup by a kick return, Sanchez complete a couple of passes. If it weren't for the defense and running game, the Jets aren't in that game. Period. There was an entire article in the NY Times dedicated to point that out. But, please, go on with your fantasy.
For the record, even charitably speaking, Sanchez was not a top 10QB and the only reason he may have made the top 16 (or one half of all starters) is because his team carried him more so and further than more qualified QBs.
As a matter of fact, underscoring what I've been arguing for years, check out the 2010 Henne/Sanchez comparison and you'll see that they're basically the same QB except for the supporting casts and defenses. You still cannot convince me that in 09, when both Henne and Sanchez were 7-7 before Santa drops some giftgames down Rex's chimney, Henne could not have accomplished what Sanchez did and possibly more (especially in that pathetic SD postseasn game) Presently, I'm convinced that The Buttfumbler, being the sensitive boy he is, would have folded under the pressure down in Jacksonville and never bounced back like Henne is relatively doing given what he has to work with.
All fantasy stats. All bull****. None of those numbers matter.
I said it before and I will say it again.....I am glad Sanchez was the Jets QB! They would have had at least 1 other Superbowl win otherwise!
nyjunc said:
No. there is only two numbers that matter (according to you):
0-2
Sanchez's record in AFC Championship games. Every time he has had the chance in the biggest game of the year, he lost.
I hope Sanchez and Smith are dueling it out for years
CorduroyG
Rookie
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Lets get those balls deep!!
Well when you have Marshall, Jeffrey, Bennett and Forte to work with it'll help your QBR for sure. At this point it is basically drop back, look to see which of Marshall and Jeffrey isn't doubled, throw there. If both are doubled, **** it throw it anyways. Tannehill has no such luxury. This team does not have any player that can go up and get the ball in a fight. Every single one of our receivers needs to be open to get a catch.
Mark actually did throw an interception in the 09 SD game that Rivers gave back on another interception in the red zone making it easy for the jest.. and now that you mention it, SD did miss 2 chip shots shorter than 40 and a makeable 58.. and Mark did hand off to Shonne Greene for a 53 yard TD run to win by 3 despite 101 yds, sub 50% completion rate (12whole completions) .. do you even understand how your snide remarks open you up to your hypocrisy in insisting that buttfumble was anything but a pathetic passenger in the lucky SD PO win? But be that as it may here's some more of your hypocrisy (or as Buffalo fins fan labels lack of integrity)
I think your citing of excuses by way of extenuating circumstances for buttfumble blowing a must win game essentially exonerating him for stuff you've spent a few days trying to denigrate and fault Tannehill who unlike him, won a must-win game speaks volumes to your modus operendi and built in biases. To that end, your post regarding the Atlanta loss is both instructive and illustrative going forward.
Here's what bothers me about these excuses..especially in juxtaposition to not giving Tannehill credit for beating Pittsburgh
*They're typical of blaming everyone and everything other than The Buttfumbler
*buttfumble and Tannehill faced elimination games - Tannehill against a team still in play on the road/ buttfumble at home against a dead team yet RT17 came through with flying colors while MS6 crapped the bed throwing 3 ints with a sub 50QBR at home
*Bad weather according to you impeded buttfumble at home. Yet a dome team already eliminated from the playoffs beat them, largely due to one of his ints being converted into a FG - those 3 pts being the difference in the 10-7 game. Pathetic that buttfumble could only score 7 pts when he needed it most at home. Last I looked, Tannehill on the road, coming from and playing in Texas, never playing in cold snow before, actually excelled in wet snow conditions with a windchill factor of approximately 10 degrees. Cold and Wet trumps cold and windy, sorry.
*buttfumble coming back from an injury? Did you know that in cold, slippery conditions making it difficult to hold the ball, Tannehill was actually playing through a thumb injury? Sorry, but that makes his performance in P-Burgh all the more impressive.
*buttfumble crapped the bed with 3 Ints, the first turnover actually resulting in 3 points which was the difference which he and the team never recovered from. True, 2 of those interceptions were made by Brent Grimes, but the one that mattered most was made by Thomas ****ing DeCoud. You're making fun of TroyP, an all time great safety jumping a route for a great play pic 6? I know he's not Thomas DeCoud, but give me a ****ing break!
*So your kicker missed a few FGs? To be fair, so did Carpenter in game 1 for us vs the jest last season but those extenuating circumstances only explain buttfumble coming up short.. but not Tannehill. Beyond that, to be fair to SD fans, in that 09 playoff game Kaedig missed two chip shots and a long one he's made before and still the jest won by only 3 pts. Go figure :idk:
*buttfumble put up all of 7 points at home (that's important cuz you like to fixate on road wins) against a team that for the season was # 12 in scoring D giving up 20.3 pts per game . Tannehill put up 34 points against a team that was giving up 23.2pts/game and ranked 14th top scoring D. Certainly the jest D which averaged 14.8pts per game as the season's #1 Scoring D did its job limiting Ryan and his high powered offense to 10 points. It's buttfumble who fell short in an elimination game at home, wouldn't you agree?
*buttfumble in a must win game (who knew Polian and Marvin Lewis would be gift-wrapping wins - in decisions so egregious that the league immediately changed late season
scheduling policies?) crapped the bed completely at home against a dead dome team.
Sub 50QBR, 1TD, 3Ints. Compare that to Tannehill's 95plus QBR, 3 TDs and 1 Int - and instead of sulking on the end of the bench or munching hotdogs, he actually shook it off, including a brutal hit on that pick and brought his team back for the win.
Bottom Line: either admit that buttfumble sucked when it mattered most in just about every respect in a game they were set up to win, or just shut the **** up trying to discredit Tannehill for at the very least a workman-like successful performance when it mattered most. Please stop with the excuses for a change, .
really? mark's 3 passes where very little YAC came about were the result of others? his perfect pass down the sideline to set up the GW FG on the road at the gun in the playoffs was set up by others?
No excuses, I don't care if the D was beaten down or not. The D got a stop on the last possession to give their O a chance to take the lead.
for once you are right even though you are trying to mock me. By him posting that and you agreeing it shows how little you know.
again.
Tony Romo, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Matt Schaub, Chad Pennington, daunte Culpepper and Jeff Garcia have a higher rating than Dan Marino.
We have access to more info than ever before yet the average fan is just as dumb as ever before.
we don't make either title game w/o him.
gave D double digit lead in '09, brought us back w/in a possession then D allows Pitt to run out clock. He was not the reason we lost either game.
I don't know why I respond to you but I enjoy making you look foolish though in reality you do a great job yourself so it's really easy.
He did have an INT, not a killer one. He didn't take pts off the board like Rivers did w/ his first one or give pts to an opponent like Rivers did w/ his 2nd one.
as usual you cannot get basic facts right, he missed one shorter than 40. the other was exactly 40.
mark was outstanding in that game, it's something someone who doesn't understand football and didn't watch the game wouldn't understand.
Obviously Atlanta wasn't an elimination game as we made the playoffs and had you lost Sunday you wouldn't have been eliminated so once again basic facts escape the excuse making stalker.
largely due to a TO being converted to 3 pts? seriously? that TO was early in the game, he came right back and threw a bomb to give us a lead until late when our D allowed a late TD.
now Ryan has a thumb injury, is that why he hasn't been able to throw a ball beyond 15 yds since entering the league? that's why he threw that awful pick 6?
missed kicks only count when they help the Jets, got it:rolleyes2:
some games you win scoring 30, some scoring 7-10. Sunday was the first time all year you scored 30 pts and only the 2nd time in his career he led your O to 30 pts(in a game Bush had almost 200 yds rushing)
by the way, through 2 seasons Mark led his O to 6 30+ pt games, Ryan has 2.
You may want to look up what the word "elimination" means. It will help you clean up your BS
VA_Finfan
Practice Squad
I don't give two sh**s about some made up Quarterback ranking system. Just another made up stat smh