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How high would you draft a QB in this draft?

WVDolphan said:
Taj Boyd is terrible. I wouldnt draft him if we had no QBs on the roster and the draft went 20 rounds.

McCarron is going earlier than people seem to think. I wouldnt be shocked if a team like Houston trades back up into the late 1st round to get him.

If Johnny Football ever lasts to pick 19, we should run the card to the podium with his name on it. In fact, if he falls any further than 12 or so, I start to consider moving up before someone else grows a brain and does it.

Otherwise, I take McCarron if I can. Also, if Murray is available later on, I take him as well.

Im sure you are all aware I would do the smart thing and trade Tannehill(especially if some team is still foolish enough to hand over a 1st for him), then proceed to draft Johnny Football or McCarron AND Murray as well. I would have a roster with 2 of those guys and Matt Moore at QB. Let the rookies battle and if one is ready to start right away then put them in there. If not, I start Moore for one season.
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Lol. Post of the year. I agree, people are so down on Tannehill that you almost need this kind of sarcasm to play along with them... Oh wait... You were serious? Really?
 
Immediately. I agree with WV, if Manziel somehow slips -- or Bridgewater -- I'd trade up and grab them. It would make exponentially more sense than what we did with Jordan last year, although there would be howls on this board.

Manziel is exactly the opposite of Robert Griffin, BTW. Somehow the reputations regarding their personality entering the draft were reversed. The fans and media members who got it wrong with RGME will get it wrong again with Manziel. He is a solid citizen who is determined to be a class guy off the field. I remember him saying that years ago. In fact, I posted that link months ago. I'm convinced it will hold true in the NFL. Griffin was always a jerk.

Otherwise, I agree that Aaron Murray is strangely underrated. He came within a whisker of denying Alabama a national championship in 2012. I don't see how that can be ignored.

I also like Smith from Wyoming as a gutsy kid who makes plays, and Wenning from Ball State could be an interesting late choice.
 
This reminds me of last year when people on this board were arguing about which receiver we were going to draft..... Sorry to again burst your bubble guys, but a QB is not getting drafted.. This is a non topic.
 
You have to always be grooming someone for the future. Look at what happened with Marino. When he was gone, we were screwed. You never know when they starter is going to get hurt. And Tannehill is looking OK for his second year, but there is no saying he is going to progress.

Look back at 72...it was really nice to have Morrall there. And in the late 70's and early 80's we had Strock. Shula always tried to have a good backup he was grooming.

Sorry, but Devlin and Moore aren't it...

Also, by consistently picking up a QB...eventually you hit on a real starter....
 
I'm pretty sure the front office view Devlin and Moore as their Strock's. They kept all 3 active on the roster all last year and they still haven't gotten rid of Moore and that contract. RT is an extremely durable dude.... I can see if we had a small guy like Vick, RG3 or Wilson, but RT used to be a receiver. He's used to getting hit and last year showed us that... Could we upgrade our back ups? yeah, just about every single position on the team can be upgraded, but we have real priorities at some positions and a limited amount of shots at filling them in the draft. Bring in a few undrafted rookies to compete during training camp for 3rd string/PS development. The rook won't get playing time either way, even if it were a 1st round pick.... RT owns that spot.
 
traptses said:
Lol. Post of the year. I agree, people are so down on Tannehill that you almost need this kind of sarcasm to play along with them... Oh wait... You were serious? Really?
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You wouldnt think an adult would be this ridiculous right?
 
we HAVE to hit on starters on first two picks, really think it needs to be OL in first two picks, unless we have top TE avail at 1, then BOLA in rounds 2 and 3. after that all we are really drafting is depth and potential starters or rotational players for 2015 anyways. ive been on the draft murray bandwagon since he was a sophomore. so I have no problem dropping a 4th on Murray. our last 4 picks assuming no trade downs to pick up extra picks are just gonna be...scab OL, RB, and prob two LB'ers who can play ST's. so why not invest one in a QB.

Best case scenarios, tannehill shows he is legend and our QB next 12 years, rookie QB, shows strong promise in preseason, we unload Moore for a cond '15 pick feeling comfy with rook and devlin, and maybe after a strong preason in '15 the drafted QB's stock rises and we can flip him for maybe a 2nd.
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tannehill unfortunately doesn't pan out this year. we already have a rookie qb who has a year in the system and can push for starting job over tanne in preseason '15. maybe extend moore for an additional season in the even that tanne really screwed the pooch this year and the rookie cant take the reigns. .

devlin and moores contracts I believe are both up at the end of this season. tanne will be in the 4th year which is his "play for big contract year"

don't draft a qb just to draft a qb, but if a potential stud qb can be had in the 4th 5th round I say you gotta jump on him to give him a year in the system. unless yall just want another 3rd string OG, which im sure has less future trade value that a backup QB
 
Awsi Dooger said:
Immediately. I agree with WV, if Manziel somehow slips -- or Bridgewater -- I'd trade up and grab them. It would make exponentially more sense than what we did with Jordan last year, although there would be howls on this board.

Manziel is exactly the opposite of Robert Griffin, BTW. Somehow the reputations regarding their personality entering the draft were reversed. The fans and media members who got it wrong with RGME will get it wrong again with Manziel. He is a solid citizen who is determined to be a class guy off the field. I remember him saying that years ago. In fact, I posted that link months ago. I'm convinced it will hold true in the NFL. Griffin was always a jerk.

Otherwise, I agree that Aaron Murray is strangely underrated. He came within a whisker of denying Alabama a national championship in 2012. I don't see how that can be ignored.

I also like Smith from Wyoming as a gutsy kid who makes plays, and Wenning from Ball State could be an interesting late choice.
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Bingo all the way around.

Ive been waiting for someone to point out the RG 3-10 vs Johnny Football scenario. Its so funny how you pointed out before RG3 was drafted just how many examples of poor character he has displayed that were somehow not only overlooked, but the media spin was how he was such a great gentleman. Unreal.

No one in the media going into that draft suggested they would not select RG3 even in round 7.

I know you pointed out his character flaws and I was the guy saying I wouldnt draft him at all. Not because of his character, but I simply didnt see him as a player who could have any sustained success in the NFL. He simply does not throw the ball well. Everyone talked about his great deep ball, but I figured it was a matter of time until he wasnt looking at single safety coverages on every play and he would struggle to be an effective NFL QB. Even if he had not destroyed his knee, the NFL defenses would figure out a way to shut his running down and it would be all over for him. It seems to be the case. The injury certainly expedited the process.

Manziel on the other hand is not only painted as a guy with bad character, but media members are coming right out and saying they wouldnt take him at all. Some say he is a 3rd round prospect at best. Its laughable. I heard one guy on ESPN yesterday say that Manziel was just a bunch of hype with a cute nickname. :lol: Sounds like he should be talking about RG3.

First on the character, what did Manziel do that was so bad? He won the Heisman as a freshman and showed up at some parties? Shame on him. What a horrible kid he is to be 19 years old and go to frat parties. Whats that? He sold some autographs? Heavens what a disgrace. What kind of a person would do such a thing? A terrible kid, thats who...... :lol: ****ing laughable.

Meantime on the field he has shown himself to be nothing but a fierce competitor and a great leader. So he talked some trash on the field. So what? 70% or more of the players in the league do that. Funny when some guys do it they say its awesome but, when Manziel does it he is going to be a bust.

Now looking at the skills, its obvious to me that Manziel is not like RG3 at all. Manziel can actually make all of the throws. The only real concern I have with Manziel is his size, but most people realize its not so much the height as it is the build. Manziel is put together. His body seems like it can absorb a few hits and keep going. There are plenty of shorter players in the NFL who play positions that take many more hits than QB and they still go. My concern would just be from a height standpoint as far as playing the positions and seeing over the LOS.

While Manziel might need some work on making reads, I dont question his ability to throw at all. He can make throws. He isnt going to be the greatest at some of those intermediate routes to the sidelines, but he throws a great deep ball and has great touch on all the other throws. I think he will be just fine in the NFL.

I wonder what could be the reason no one in the media questioned RG3, but have no issues bashing away at Manziel? :ponder:

Also, Murray may be the best QB in this draft. Even if Ive already selected Manziel or McCarron, I still draft Murray if he is there later. The guy played some great games vs. great teams and top defenses. He has great arm strength. His first 3 years he made a few too many mistakes being a natural gunslinger, but he cut those down in his senior season.

There was speculation a couple of years ago that he could be the #1 overall pick when he comes out. Now he is projected in the mid rounds? What a steal. I think he is at the very least a serviceable NFL QB, but he could wind up being a top NFL QB. I wouldnt wait too long to draft him.

The guy also has serious guts out there. Had it not been for an Auburn hail mary, people would still be talking about what a great comeback he lead to beat them.

This is a great draft for QBs IMHO. There are several guys who can be had beyond the 1st round who could be good NFL QBs.
 
No.....no need to draft a QB. We have a quality starter and a good back up.
 
Not before the 5th. But, seeing as how it's unlikely to find an improvement over Devlin at that point - I'd probably pass on one this year (pun not intended)
 
Per WV, Manzel is such a "fierce competitor and field leader," and Murray has "serious guts" and can actually lead a team to a great comeback when it counts?

Well then just maybe Atlanta, if able to still get a first for his boy Matty Ice who's put them in a prime early draft spot should consider drafting either one of these guys as a viable alternative if they really ever want to reach the SB. :idk:

Having back the kind of weapons Melty had to work with in the good years, when it's actually a "get it done or go home" proposition - but unlike him, actually possessing the balls, leadership and clutch gene to not disappear in the second halves of postseason games (24 points total in 5 second halves going back to the ACC championship including several shutouts with a 1-5 record ), surely replacing him with one of them certainly couldn't hurt. Ya think? :idk:
 
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