For the life of me I cannot see what was guiding these young men. Seems like some feral youth experiment gone bad.
I have to agree with you as well on that point,but that brings me to something else that someone else said in another post that I found to be another stupid remark.
That remark
....."If you've never been a part of an NFL lockerroom, you don't understand an NFL lockerroom"
My reply would be, so some of the very things are'nt said in high school or college locker rooms ? Because I can tell you all that for a fact,that is NOT the case and some of the very same things are said. I played some ball growing up,have been in the locker room,heard about all there is to hear,gay remarks,whose D**k IS BIGGER THAN WHOSE, and so forth. I also guarded athletes as a Deputy in locker rooms,and something I always found is there were always the select few that took it to far,made it nasty,vulgar,to the bully point over others.
Other athletes sit back and you can tell that many dont like it,but they even cower for fear of being the next target if they speak up and say something. Other teams have strong locker rooms and players that are established,and wont put up with it,stopping an individual IMMEDIATELY when they cross a line with,"Thats enough,thats crossing a line !...and so it stops immediately, if you have those type strong leaders who are willing to step up and say something and stop it immediately !Thats why I do put this on the Dolphins locker room alot,there leaders were the actual ones causing alot of the problems,but then as bad as I hate it,who were the ones who appointed people like Incognito,Pouncey and some of these to these "Leadership" positions,with all there past troubles ! ?? THEY NEVER should have even been in those leadership roles,and with a young QB who I would guesse is still not established enough to step in either,Im not absolving him or anyone though,someone,no matter how young,old should have steeped up and said enough already !
See,thats what some here ARE NOT GETTING !!!! I understand the locker room mentality,guys cutting up, joking,pranking,as I said,I been there seen and done that. BUT its the LINE that is crossed from joking,having a good time, to Bullying,trying to make someone your"bitch" per say. Making someone so afraid of you they cower at seeing you walk in the locker room,even leave or hurry to get out because of you.
No,the joking,giving each other a hard time,telling a few dirty jokes among buddies, some easy pranks that dont cross the line,thats all building comradery,I have no problem with those type things at all,again as long as its done in small amounts and dont cross a line. Its the sexually assault (alledgedly) against females,the crossing the line in comments (Gonna F" Mama,Sister), all the other things Incognito did that went WAY to far !!!
See the problem is,we trust adults enough to be adults, to know THEMSELVES where the line should be drawn and NOT CROSSED ! But instead we have these Bullies,or immoral sorts even that either have no morrals,or cant judge where the line should be ! Then you get the likes of the NFL,or the workers rights people coming in,this organization or that one, to set rules and guidelines down,all because of the few bad apples with either no Morals or who are bullies who cant stop themselves from crossing that line ! From throwing punches on the field,jerking off helmets and all the other things in Incognitos file,he has proven he is one that either cant see the line,or does'nt care who he hurts by crossing it,but it's all good...as long as he's having his fun and happy,then to hell with all the rest ! Richie is a nutshell !
