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How many wins for Philbin to keep his job?

Mogwai said:
He's not a good coach. He's an anchor around our necks. But unless the team flames out this year I don't think he's going anywhere. In fact, if we make the playoffs, which we could do thanks to Hickey and Lazor, then philbin will be here leading us to mediocrity for years.
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So playoffs = meciocrity...got it.
 
Mogwai said:
He's not a good coach. He's an anchor around our necks. But unless the team flames out this year I don't think he's going anywhere. In fact, if we make the playoffs, which we could do thanks to Hickey and Lazor, then philbin will be here leading us to mediocrity for years.
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I think Philbin is an average coach at best, but if we make playoffs that's quit a step up, hel a winning season is a step up
 
SkapePhin said:
Give ANY coach one of the best QBs in the game and they can win 12/13 games, IE Caldwell/Manning & Childress/Favre.

I love it how you are placing all the blame on Tannehill, yet absolve Philbin of any blame in selecting/grooming/coaching him. If Tannehill fails, its on Philbin and he should go out with him.
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1. I disagree that ANY coach can win with an elite QB, else Rivers would have a much better overall record. However, you are mostly right and the majority of NFL coaches can and need a good QB and Philbin falls in that group. That is why game management is such a crucial aspect in judging a coaches ability because being able to make good decisions under extreme pressure may be the difference between a SB title or not for most coaches. Tony Sparano ran around like a chicken with his head cut off over mundane decisions in regular season games, if he ever managed to get to a SB I can only imagine the retardedness we'd witness out of him.

2. Yes Philbin is responsible for Tannehill's development, he's taking a very high variance sink or swim approach with bringing him up to speed. As an example allowing him to call audibles may not be something a lot of coaches would do, especially when the game is on the line like that Jets overtime game but the hope is that approach results in a very steep learning curve.

3. Some coaches are very good at the personnel aspect like Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick. Others are not, like Rex Ryan. Its hard to say on Philbin at this point, I think he was better than Ireland though, but thats not saying much. So if Tannehill is a failure I have no problem with kicking Philbin to the curb too.
 
dlockz said:
I think Philbin is an average coach at best, but if we make playoffs that's quit a step up, hel a winning season is a step up
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I agree. However, just making the playoffs wouldn't do it for me. Last year just to make them would've been great, this season it'd have to be about how we made them. Did we back in because others lost during the final week or did we do our job by winning and secured a spot on our own? Once in do we make a game out of it or do we lose horribly?

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PhinFan1968 said:
Wildcat year doesn't count IMHO.
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Yeah but he was the HC. That's like saying you like Philbin even though it doesn't count this year that he got in the playoffs because he had Lazor calling the plays.
 
TheMageGandalf said:
Yeah but he was the HC. That's like saying you like Philbin even though it doesn't count this year that he got in the playoffs because he had Lazor calling the plays.
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If Philbin/Lazor consistently get us into the playoffs, I like. How does that = mediocrity, which was the original premise being responded to? Fistpump doesn't have a damn thing to do with it. He lucked into the playoffs 1 time on a gimmick.
 
I love the fact that so many Philbin haters also have a man crush on Bill Lazor. If I didn't know better I would guess you fruitloops judge a coach on nothing more than press conferences and reality show edits. :unsure:

Anyway, I really hope Lazor is a beast of a coordinator because that will mean the team will have great success, which will obviously be awesome, but the cherry on top will be watching you guys struggle with the idea that Philbin was the one that brought Lazor here, which means Philbin will deserve the credit. I can already sense the arguments coming for why that won't be the case. And I can't wait for those debates. It'll just more icing on the cake.
 
If Soprano would have had Tannehill, does he have a better coaching tenure than Philbin at this point?
 
BahamaFinFan78 said:
If Soprano would have had Tannehill, does he have a better coaching tenure than Philbin at this point?
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Tebow and Sanchez, both playoff winning QBs, were pretty much knocked out of the league the year after Sparano got his paws on them...
 
roy_miami said:
I love the fact that so many Philbin haters also have a man crush on Bill Lazor. If I didn't know better I would guess you fruitloops judge a coach on nothing more than press conferences and reality show edits. :unsure:

Anyway, I really hope Lazor is a beast of a coordinator because that will mean the team will have great success, which will obviously be awesome, but the cherry on top will be watching you guys struggle with the idea that Philbin was the one that brought Lazor here, which means Philbin will deserve the credit. I can already sense the arguments coming for why that won't be the case. And I can't wait for those debates. It'll just more icing on the cake.
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If Lazor is successful, I will credit Ross more than anything, because if it were left up to Philbin we would be going another year with Sherman Go-Go Gadgetball.
 
roy_miami said:
:juggle:
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It's a well known fact that he didn't want to fire Sherman. So if you didn't like Sherman, why are you crediting Philbin for getting Lazor? There would be no Lazor without Sherman gone. I love the hire, and I am glad Philbin was able to set his ego aside to bring a guy like Lazor in here, but I'm not going to shower praises on Philbin when I know he wanted to keep Go-Go Mike Sherman at almost all cost.
 
SkapePhin said:
It's a well known fact that he didn't want to fire Sherman. So if you didn't like Sherman, why are you crediting Philbin for getting Lazor? There would be no Lazor without Sherman gone. I love the hire, and I am glad Philbin was able to set his ego aside to bring a guy like Lazor in here, but I'm not going to shower praises on Philbin when I know he wanted to keep Go-Go Mike Sherman at almost all cost.
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:snooze:
 
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