How Many Wins in 2013 was Ryan Tannehill Responsible for?

[mnphinfan]

QB Wins Added = [(Air Yds - Sack Yds) * 1.56 - INTs * 50.5 ] / Pass Attempts - 3

Until you can judge Tannehill's play statistically without it negatively being affected in numbers by the horrid play of the offensive line I can't take any of the outcomes seriously.

However, in this case the numbers point to what pretty much everyone on the board, that doesn't need numbers/stats to evaluate Tannehill have been saying. He was average this year, but improved in many areas such as pocket presence, protecting the football in the pocket, making the correct offensive adjustments/reads to the defense as well as every major statistical category except INT. In other words he's a young/raw QB who's improving that needs time to reach his full potential.

 

[nyjunc]

The OP wants to over power and persuade fans with individuals stats in the game that is thee most obvious team sport in the world.

There is no other game that equals team sport more than the NFL.

there's no position more important than QB and if the QB isn't making plays it's hard to win. He had more than enough talent around him to help Miami to the playoffs. you didn't make it mostly b/c of him, that doesn't mean he won't get better b/c he has a chance to be pretty good. He's just not there yet.

 

[Sons Of Shula]

there's no position more important than QB and if the QB isn't making plays it's hard to win. He had more than enough talent around him to help Miami to the playoffs. you didn't make it mostly b/c of him, that doesn't mean he won't get better b/c he has a chance to be pretty good. He's just not there yet.

Considering your litmus is either Mark or Gino (or even Namath), I'm not really sure you have a clue. Obviously with a comment like the one bolded, it's quite clear you don't. Where in the **** do you equate playoff talent to the worst o-line in franchise history. RB's are not the only ones who need blocking.

 

[Shouright]

How many Tannehaters on this site do you think would say that Tannehill was as effective as Brady, Luck, Ryan, Romo, Dalton, RGIII, Stafford, Roethlisberger, Newton, Flacco, Bradford, and Smith this season?

Also notice, however, that in terms of the statistic in the original post, he was also "as effective" as Brandon Weeden, somewhat less effective than Matt Cassel, Mike Glennon, and Carson Palmer, and considerably less effective than Peyton Manning, Nick Foles, Philip Rivers, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, Tom Brady, and even Case Keenum.

 

[Phinatic8u]

When are you gonna stop.

Is this all you do, is find useless statistics and post them here?

There's 22 other guys on this team that failed this team, and besides Grimes nobody even had close to a good year.

Make threads about players Miami needs to target in FA and draft to help this team next season, or about what certain players have to do to improve there individual game.

Stop posting stat threads about the SAME person. Nobody gives a **** anymore.

 

[nyjunc]

Considering your litmus is either Mark or Gino (or even Namath), I'm not really sure you have a clue. Obviously with a comment like the one bolded, it's quite clear you don't. Where in the **** do you equate playoff talent to the worst o-line in franchise history. RB's are not the only ones who need blocking.

The Ol was nowhere near as bad as you guys made it out to be. Your Ol dominated our DL which was one of the best in the league, nit all sacks are on the OL. You guys trusted Ryan too much and abandoned the run when you shouldn't have which is why you didn't make it.

 

[CalDolFan10x14]

How many Ryan Tannehill stats threads was the OP responsible for in 2013?

I'd say about 14,000.

Obsess much???

 

[Sons Of Shula]

The Ol was nowhere near as bad as you guys made it out to be. Your Ol dominated our DL which was one of the best in the league, nit all sacks are on the OL. You guys trusted Ryan too much and abandoned the run when you shouldn't have which is why you didn't make it.

Oh. You're that guy. Good day sir.

 

[Shouright]

Also notice, however, that in terms of the statistic in the original post, he was also "as effective" as Brandon Weeden, somewhat less effective than Matt Cassel, Mike Glennon, and Carson Palmer, and considerably less effective than Peyton Manning, Nick Foles, Philip Rivers, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, Tom Brady, and even Case Keenum.

The reason for this perhaps is that the percentage of the variance in wins added accounted for by the variables in the original post is increased by the addition into the model of expected points added per play, which is detailed here:

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2010/01/expected-points-ep-and-expected-points.html

 

[Sons Of Shula]

How Many Useless Threads in 2013 was Shouright Responsible for?

 

[Sarnics13]

Constantly pointing out that Tannehill had an average stat season would matter more for the agenda of trying to show him to be inadequate, if it weren't for the fact that the rest of the team for the most part was significantly below average. In my opinion that makes his ability to put up even average numbers even more impressive.

Put together a team stat that is "significantly correlated" with winning other than just the QB's. If anyone doesn't think Sherman, D giving up ridiculous scores, O-line, no running game, 58 sacks...etc were all a major factor in Tannehills stats then they are showcasing their football ignorance.

 

[nyjunc]

Oh. You're that guy. Good day sir.

if you don't want to deal in reality that is on you, you had a chance to win one of 2 games against dead teams the last 2 weeks. I didn't really see the Buf game but I did the Jet game and your OL was very good in that game. Your QB was awful w/ all day to throw.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

Also notice, however, that in terms of the statistic in the original post, he was also "as effective" as Brandon Weeden, somewhat less effective than Matt Cassel, Mike Glennon, and Carson Palmer, and considerably less effective than Peyton Manning, Nick Foles, Philip Rivers, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, Tom Brady, and even Case Keenum.

I'm sure that haters will pick and choose which similarities they like and don't like.

 

[Shouright]

If anyone doesn't think Sherman, D giving up ridiculous scores, O-line, no running game, 58 sacks...etc were all a major factor in Tannehills stats then they are showcasing their football ignorance.

What objective evidence do you have to support that?

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I'm sure that haters will pick and choose which similarities they like and don't like.

And so will the "lovers."

 

[Phindog]

The Ol was nowhere near as bad as you guys made it out to be. Your Ol dominated our DL which was one of the best in the league, nit all sacks are on the OL. You guys trusted Ryan too much and abandoned the run when you shouldn't have which is why you didn't make it.

LOL,do you always play both sides of the fence??? Nothing like stating the obvious.

So,because we dominated the Jets Dline our Oline was above average??? Give me a freaking break.

This is the worse Oline I've watch a Dolphin QB play behind since I can remember(1972).It's not just the Oline... it was failed blocking and failed blitz pick ups,vanilla play calling all while passed like 65 percent of the time.You don't throw for nearly 4000 yards by accident.

we don't need stats to tell us, he was a key in the Atl and NE wins, other than that your D pretty much led to all the other wins.

You couldn't be anymore wrong if you tried.