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How Much Blame Goes On Players?

60 sacks....my god! thats attrocious. I could see 300 yds lost there.

About 6 picks of RT's were tipped or he got slammed when throwing.

He fumbled in key games from the pressure (Bills).

Clearly, this Ol being a top 5 bunch would make us a much much better team.
 
finfan54 said:
60 sacks....my god! thats attrocious. I could see 300 yds lost there.

About 6 picks of RT's were tipped or he got slammed when throwing.

He fumbled in key games from the pressure (Bills).

Clearly, this Ol being a top 5 bunch would make us a much much better team.
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Aaron Rodgers had 8 fewer sacks (50) in 2009 and had a 103.2 QB rating to Tannehill's 81.7, and an 8.2 YPA to Tannehill's 6.7. Last year Rodgers had 51 sacks, a 108 QB rating, and a 7.8 YPA.
 
The first int was a nice play by that Jets CB, I forget his name right now. The rookie from Bama. Plus Wallace slipped. And it was all downhill from there. Tannehill was doing solid up until that point. I don't put too much blame on him. He's the QB so of course he deserves a good bit, but he was doing solid until that first int.
 
shouright said:
Aaron Rodgers had 8 fewer sacks (50) in 2009 and had a 103.2 QB rating to Tannehill's 81.7, and an 8.2 YPA to Tannehill's 6.7. Last year Rodgers had 51 sacks, a 108 QB rating, and a 7.8 YPA.
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Wasn't Rodgers a backup in his 2nd season...?
 
Got to blame both coaches & players. Hard for us to assign % of blame as we're on outside looking in. One thing to me, is that when players leave Miami they play better. Lots of reasons why that may be, but I have to assume the coaching is a big part in that. Until we get coaches who can get everything out of their players, mediocrity will continue.
 
When talking Tannes completion % and play the last 2 games, a lot should be taken into consideration that the same people seem to want to leave out......yes, he did not have his best games, but in both games he also had several key drops by receivers who normally make routine catches. These had a huge impact on both games as they were while we were driving. Also, when you can't pick up a 4th and 2 feet on a run play, something is wrong. It also looked to me like the season of hits finally caught up to him, as his passes while still having something on it, lacked that zip and several 2 hopped to the receiver.

I know for a fact that after the Buffalo game on the plane ride back, he was in his drawz with and ice pack on his injured knee...and was noticeably limping when he got off the plane.
 
shouright said:
Well, regardless of whether you think you should take shots at him at this point in his career, the fact still remains that it's going to be exceedingly difficult to be any better than average as a team when your quarterback is playing no better than average, and in some important ways below average.

So hold Tannehill "sacred" or "untouchable" if you will, but realize that quarterback play of his ilk is strongly associated with no better than average overall team play, the inevitable exceptions to the rule notwithstanding.
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Ya know, I pray to GOD I never ever get to the point of following the game of football, which I love, like a computer or accountant only. If so, I would hope a friend just shoots me as the game will have gone to a place no Phan should have to deal with.

You're on a fine line of being there, and I feel sorry for you. You never played the game, or any game, did ya?
 
fishbanger said:
Look at our OL. the worst OL in the NFL. Whos fault is that?
Whose Fault is it that we dont have a FB that can help team make 3rd and one?
Whose fault is it that After Miller we dont have a good RB?
Whos fault is it that our Run defense turned out to be one of the worst in the NFL yet the majority of our salary dollars is in that front 7?
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1. The o-line is all on Ireland, but Philbin never even tried different personnel in games after seeing that he had a problem.

2. No FB? That is 100% on Philbin. He said that his "system" doesn't need a FB, so he didn't want one.

3. RB? Ireland again. And for the record, Miller is not very good, and is worse than Thomas at blocking.

4. Poor run defense? Philbin again, with help from Ireland. Philbin and Coyle took a Top 5 rushing defense, changed schemes, and they dropped to about 13th in one season. In year two, Ireland swapped LBs, and the run defense dropped again to about 24th or possibly worse.

Between Ireland and Philbin (and his staff) this team may have won one more game than last season, but the overall play of the team is worse after two years of "building".
 
Hartline played so bad at Buffalo that people commented online that he might have been paid off.

It looks like he was probably playing injured. The camera man sure spent a lot of time focusing on his face in the jest game.

The last two teams we played had our offense figured out pretty well. Considering the oline problems I was much more upset about the Defense.

Teams ran right at us, at the start of the season they picked us apart at the edges, but the last few games teams were running right at the middle with success.
 
Southbeach 2 said:
Ya know, I pray to GOD I never ever get to the point of following the game of football, which I love, like a computer or accountant only. If so, I would hope a friend just shoots me as the game will have gone to a place no Phan should have to deal with.

You're on a fine line of being there, and I feel sorry for you. You never played the game, or any game, did ya?
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Who gives a **** about me?

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NBP81 said:
Wasn't Rodgers a backup in his 2nd season...?
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The point is that a high number of sacks doesn't automatically derail a season in terms of a QB's overall performance. It's not like being sacked a great deal inherently equates to a bad performance overall.
 
A lot of blame goes to the players. I did not see one sign (except Hartline on the sideline) of players being upset about the Jets game. Tannehill and Moore were laughing it up on the sideline in the 4th quarter. The bench was quiet. Nobody was stepping up to put any fire under them. These guys didn't seem to care. Is that because they are young? Maybe. Is it lack of confidence? Maybe. Is that due to lack of coaching? Yes. Lack of leadership? Yes. Any way you look at it, it is the fault of the players which rests at the hands of the coaches which rests at the hands of your GM and owner. The whole organization is at fault for this.
 
when the best performer you had all season was a FA ( Brent Grimes ) there is an evident lack of production from the Miami leaders, players must get a lot of the blame, Sherman a big portion of it and then the rest.
 
realdolphin said:
when the best performer you had all season was a FA ( Brent Grimes ) there is an evident lack of production from the Miami leaders, players must get a lot of the blame, Sherman a big portion of it and then the rest.
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From the Miami leaders? You mean the ones Philbin jettisoned from this team
 
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