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How much is too much to give up for us to move into the top say, 8-10 position to get one of the 3 big QBs ?? I'm assuming that Cutler will continue to move up the boards with a good Senior bowl and individual workouts. So, if Leinart, Young or Cutler are available still at 8, what would be ok for Saban to give up ??

Is our #16, RW and another pick too much ??

Would you be dissapointed in Saban if he went that route and had to give up multiple picks to get one of those guys (assuming they are all ranked equally well) ??
 
No, I don't think that's too much. If you feel like any one of those Qbs is the real thing, then you don't think twice about doing it.
If you move players, you gotta have some sense of what they're worth. You'd have to look at the draft value chart, but I think the Ricky Williams is worth that same amount of points as a mid-3rd, Sam Madison as a late 5th. I can't realistically see us packaging anyone else into a trade-up affair, and I know Saban loves to have as many draft picks as possible.
 
This is such a deep draft I'd hate to see Miami give up a lot of picks to move up. If Saban is convinced that Jay Cutler is the guy to take the franchise to the next level, fine, but I think we'd be okay with some of the second tier guys as well.
 
SF Dolphin Fan said:
This is such a deep draft I'd hate to see Miami give up a lot of picks to move up. If Saban is convinced that Jay Cutler is the guy to take the franchise to the next level, fine, but I think we'd be okay with some of the second tier guys as well.
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Ya blowing picks in this draft would be absolutely stupid. If Ricky is all it takes sure, but after that ummm no..., not for Cutler.
 
If Saban is sure the QB will be a good starter here, the most I'd give up is Ricky, our 1st rounder, and a 2nd day pick. Otherwise, I wouldn't trade up. Having the rushing attack of RW and RB would really help with the development of whatever quarterback we do draft.
 
I guess that's what I'm getting at. We did pretty good with a mediocre-at-best QB. But to get thru the next level, we'll need a much better QB situation. I know that Saban is not fond of giving up draft picks and given his success last year, I don't know that I want him to either. But, it would have to be tempting to him to move up. I know people on the FinHeaven will probably crucify him if he does give up a lot to get one of them...I wouldn't be as concerned if he did though...
 
LarryFinFan said:
Would you be dissapointed in Saban if he went that route and had to give up multiple picks to get one of those guys (assuming they are all ranked equally well) ??
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At first, yup.

Then I would call in a Priest to perform an exorcism to remove Rick Spielman from his soul.

Then I would have to wait for an explanation as to what Saban was thinking, and why he made what appears to be a move out of desperation.

Then I might understand it, and spend the preseason at the local church praying it works out ok.
 
Im starting to get increasingly excited about Brodie Croyle or Charlie Whitehurst...both really look like they could be a second round gem, and if we could still get a tackle or Huff in the first round....ohhhh...
 
Have you all seen the crap we have had behind center since dan left? I would give #16, ricky, another pick and my left nut to get a franchise qb.

I know some of you don't think Cutler is a franchise qb. I don't think watching football and playing madden makes you an evaluater of NFL talent. I am sure Saban and the staff are all doing thier homework.
 
I would give up our first rounder and RW for Cutler, but that's all I would give up....we can't ruin the team for any one player.
 
Dolfansal said:
Have you all seen the crap we have had behind center since dan left? I would give #16, ricky, another pick and my left nut to get a franchise qb.

I know some of you don't think Cutler is a franchise qb. I don't think watching football and playing madden makes you an evaluater of NFL talent. I am sure Saban and the staff are all doing thier homework.
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i think your going to need that sir
 
Pocoloco said:
No, I don't think that's too much. If you feel like any one of those Qbs is the real thing, then you don't think twice about doing it.
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exactly, franchise QBs arent very easy to find. if Saban is within reach and trades something to get a franchise QB, you have to do it with even blinking.
 
We need to keep one thing in mind about Croyle.....there're gonna be 3 QB's taken in the 1st round and they'll all be gone before our pick at 16.....but they'll still be a couple of teams that want a QB and they'll be picking ahead of us in the 2nd round so one of those teams could draft Croyle ahead of us in the 2nd round.Lets say the lions take Cutler then Arizona takes a RB....they'd still need a QB and they could take Croyle so he's not even a sure thing for us in the 2nd round now that he's moving up the charts.....so what do we do? I'd say move down, get an extra pick in round 2 and take Croyle in the 20's or else, we'll be left with noone.


Ozzy rules!!
 
We need a franchise QB, plain and simple. I'm not about giving up the whole draft for one, a la Ditka with Ricky. But if Saban feels confident enough about a certain guy, I'd be okay with our 1st, Ricky, and another pick. I have my doubts it will happen though.
 
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