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I think it safe to say that Alex Smith will be the pick...

fishypete said:
The Dolphins are trading down....so prepare for the ride.
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I wouldn't bet your pension on it Pete, no more than I would bet that we won't.

The thing is, I believe Saban is high on a few players that he can select at #2, he might even be extremely high on them. I am not of the opinion that Saban will take anything less than full value for that pick, otherwise he will utilize that pick....For Alex Smith I think.

I think some teams are of the opinion that we are so desperate to trade down that we would take a lesser offer, I think they are mistaken.
 
smith sucks.. he is overrated.
get a WR and RB in first two rounds, either QB in third (developmental) or 1st round next year(seeing how feeley is)
 
death7star said:
smith sucks.. he is overrated.
get a WR and RB in first two rounds, either QB in third (developmental) or 1st round next year(seeing how feeley is)
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:yeahthat:
 
minus said:
Of course all could change if 49rs decide not to be cheap and Nolan really wants Smith.There no doubt Saban thinks highly of Smith.
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He thinks highly of him because he's his best bargaining chip. People will move up to #2 for Smith....Saban wants that.
 
Not to sound like a prick or an apologist, but I have to clear up some misconceptions when it comes to the 49ers intentions.

Like Boomer is stating, it could be that the 49ers have ALWAYS had Smith rated ahead of Rodgers (if you want proof, I can link articles dating back to before the combine that indicated the 49ers preferred Smith).

The 49ers' Rick Speilman (Scot McCloughan) has stated he knew who he wanted before he took the 49ers' job and he hasn't wavered since.

Could it be that this whole "Rodgers to the 49ers" hype is purely media-driven? Mainly the bay-area media, those who have an obvious bias toward the hometown kid? They have no clue what the 49ers are going to do, despite what they say.

Also the 49ers are not cheap. Nolan has come out and said signability isn't an issue. Are the 49ers cheap for eating $15M just 2 years into the deals for ex-coach Dennis Erickson and ex-GM Terry Donahue? How about paying another $10M to hire their replacements? Is giving Jonas Jennings a $12M SB (overpaid or not) to play LT cheap? When it comes to the salary cap, the 49ers are at or near it every year (they just don't know how to manage it, which hopefully improves).

The 49ers' main problem is a cash flow problem which stems from their crappy stadium situation. How can ownership sell to the fans the idea of a new stadium if they pass on a potential franchise player like Smith because of finances?

The 49ers fall from grace had more to do with poor leadership at the top and not adequately replacing Steve Young (the Dolphins are struggling with this as well but had talent in other areas to compensate), than economics.
 
BlueFin said:
I wouldn't bet your pension on it Pete, no more than I would bet that we won't.

The thing is, I believe Saban is high on a few players that he can select at #2, he might even be extremely high on them. I am not of the opinion that Saban will take anything less than full value for that pick, otherwise he will utilize that pick....For Alex Smith I think.

I think some teams are of the opinion that we are so desperate to trade down that we would take a lesser offer, I think they are mistaken.
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Blue...the problem I see is some fans believe you have to get the last point from a trade...while Saban may believe it's more important to get the right picks, for the right players. Nothing is written in stone...and in this type of draft, you have to have a give and take mentality. Like you...I believe Saban will do whats best for the team...now and in the long run.
 
49ersFan said:
Not to sound like a prick or an apologist, but I have to clear up some misconceptions when it comes to the 49ers intentions.

Like Boomer is stating, it could be that the 49ers have ALWAYS had Smith rated ahead of Rodgers (if you want proof, I can link articles dating back to before the combine that indicated the 49ers preferred Smith).

The 49ers' Rick Speilman (Scot McCloughan) has stated he knew who he wanted before he took the 49ers' job and he wasn't wavered since.

Could it be that this whole "Rodgers to the 49ers" hype is purely media-driven? Mainly the bay-area media, those who have an obvious bias toward the hometown kid? They have no clue what the 49ers are going to do, despite what they say.

Also the 49ers are not cheap. Nolan has come out and said signability isn't an issue. Are the 49ers cheap for eating $15M just 2 years into the deals for ex-coach Dennis Erickson and ex-GM Terry Donahue? How about paying another $10M to hire their replacements? Is giving Jonas Jennings a $12M SB (overpaid or not) to play LT cheap? When it comes to the salary cap, the 49ers are at or near it every year (they just don't know how to manage it, which hopefully improves).

The 49ers' main problem is a cash flow problem which stems from their crappy stadium situation. How can ownership sell to the fans the idea of a new stadium if they pass on a potential franchise player like Smith because of finances?

The 49ers fall from grace had more to do with poor leadership at the top and not adequately replacing Steve Young (the Dolphins are struggling with this as well but had talent in other areas to compensate), than economics.
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From what I have read...the problem with the contract with Smith isn't with the first two years of the contract...but with the back years...I have to figure this...if Smith has been the guy as you say from the very beginning...a contract shouldn't be the problem...in fact making the contract a problem just reinforces what 49ers fans have been saying for years about the owner...don't blink...buy. If you think Smith is the best...then you have to pay him the best.
 
49ersFan said:
The 49ers' Rick Speilman (Scot McCloughan) has stated he knew who he wanted before he took the 49ers' job and he hasn't wavered since.
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You dont ever want to say that. EVER.
 
BlueFin said:
I think some teams are of the opinion that we are so desperate to trade down that we would take a lesser offer, I think they are mistaken.
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Hopefully the Surtain trade will show the league that Saban won't take crap from anyone.
 
finfansince72 said:
At this point it wouldnt shock me if Campbell wound up going before Rodgers. Well I guess it would but Campbell seems to be getting more pub than Rodgers right now.
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Don't believe the hype. Rodgers will have a great career, or at least has a better chance than most, to have a great career. There's not a draft source anywhere that has Campbell ahead of Rogers. Not that I'm saying we take him, but we could do a heck of a lot worse.
 
9er's will take Rodgers, he is the closed to a sure thing in the draft, Smith has the athletic ability, but rogers has all the intangibles that make a good QB, the mental toughest and such not. Smith is not ready to start this year, highly intelligent or not.
 
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